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RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[98.137.69.32:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[98.137.69.32:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.32:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.32:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ppc] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 04:38:52 -0000 On 2021-Jan-11, at 17:42, Mark Millard wrote: > The last of the 4-core PowerMac G5s that I have access to now shuts > down for "CPU B0 DIODE TEMP" that "exceeds critical temperature > (90.0 C)" when I try to rebuild/update ports or such. The other > 4-core G5 failed for such reasons in similar contexts a few months > ago.,Interestingly, the two G5s have very different liquid cooling > systems despite the similar time frame for the failures. > > Without the faster G5s, I may just use cross-built world/kernel > material and see if there is a tolerable but minimal set of ports > for supporting boot testing/dump inspection and basic operation of > the slower 2-socket/1-core-each and 1-socket/1-core-each PowerMacs > that I have access to, avoid things like building devel/llvm* > ports that take so long. (I have fairly strong time preferences.) I've done some more testing and, while use as a (full load/speed) builder machine is a no-go, it looks like this 4-core G5 can still be used for boot testing and basic operation without overheating. The prior failing machine overheated more easily but might have a similar status if I test it just for such use. How long the recently failed G5 will be useful for boot and basic operation testing, I do not know. But probably longer than for the originally-failing G5. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)