From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 11 19:43:10 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968431F3385 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic313-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic313-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.188]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47w9Hy2r0dz4R98 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: C52FB.oVM1mqIgsOTnQpVzhRTT_gIaoLYDL5LGMlp5GAYikb66VjRINej_q2wRM NfvR8VXGZ9b4hWkrI6e23LRxvG0_Ie7L5ZWpCfV5CQpkXQG.wBAYkuUGwf2z1.9S22L7NibtjhO. y.DYHlNVEUdVBd.xnx89czKltEDh4wiho9B5a20B9MDp9ucK5BQvhwm2gN7S1sNr6JZcprVoRYY3 QSMgzg3r8st.22bzMbRJWQ.KltCKLj5XM9drj6VBJHvZqJzkRDTlLypF.uMbcK6YNuAJJpNy2HLX nA0vBkSE4JCm4DVW.SIgEmkZ7.g4hpIeXck3zJDd2NkBEJPQ91Rc5XRuGj3Fne7UEneHDLassi5u XjTBLy3CSEpW9dKe9AFTRRG0sV0Rz5AykWYXDyrcxcWLwRmJOXxUc6iHqQTYRr1rZ0Vpm5TwsFTN kQyYjKEBSDL7q6Wk5zlK0gqRy7XCA8vPHAJE3XQgZ8ACoXNG1zWycjZaWs25ewzMfc6W.TmSo7d4 dFfMd3X4i1wn46m0I6pV8CdNScBBTfksKdhWMAsIfLZ6kVY47uZlMlN.khDh32xS7.IMsRB7zD83 plfT4ftxpB0XvQq.Xnn0V2YPSjRvBUKZep7wdWIfenjW9oNrIuB0mqzaN8UTb946GCKsCDBdBesP 6mlJP4VYRdgFjp.hTqSgpkkLzBjOE02_Z4pW3MI5YYtde2pMmUstdlnvy5tBMKmuz6cdPZHnSIpT Bl8otzAL_Y0GTGEAj.YwhGyz3FgZoSsEvIBbpDZkJc_a1hX3d3xWvLNPjq.Ho6A63cOwPw42U_4z T5O7LbBU3NCv4NEHA4UC66SuGzX3R_PfO0LAALNYaMa.IMiPQiOoHt8AOTTOhaWdy_JeTRS6myep Zs4ivMcLYug82a8YI.DyYJmslWOtCiB178Fr6LPK7gC.ssTyy9G18vDtjip3zqsqqD2vZ50NQxAA KW21mOU.eoOToUA75QYKq2Uu7qTQi2CYF4czabQIvA0QcyVYCfYg9mZQR6uU5gSqrkjUwNRPy2k2 WHmehatNxWJMyQJ.hMKEKr358qLtuVVdGTskHwO7fUXkWWOzXuuM0QYULBMP_xr30LEGiK4uF_Kh jK35GCiA2GWzFw653q29ve9psII5bQFLxOmPOvvZcUbI1h14tCZ7RmTaS3R.rYVKKGpn7LRv_S8l lCb.CBTkH9yyAdlgv0WLcS6C5hxc9sjSzLTReyMbPqfkpKNGvWI2qWKrqQKBAe_k564gsXYLi4ej rTrkTvI1yE28B5oC6p4R1Z3XVsIcqxAq.2tY4rA0qDXLfDnnlKYmkAzpIi2kI1k_OuZW74HUL8AA Fw5eVGVk9zjqesHDdwxyrPiM4nHpcD5JRENcMjNvnrfEt6dw.Exb8m9sn7FOzO7QYoe2weBxJlGP 8e6gMygGB63N30Q-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:43:08 +0000 Received: by smtp403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b29f31c96e7e5db91d3f51c3fc690772; Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 20:43:10 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Basic photo viewing/editing for Xfce? Message-ID: <20200111204310.62c97ccc@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200111141138.3aa68c51@scorpio> References: <20200108053525.GA50045@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200108124148.20eab510.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200111174004.GB79597@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200111191951.1eae72e7@archlinux> <20200111141138.3aa68c51@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47w9Hy2r0dz4R98 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:43:10 -0000 On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 14:11:38 -0500, Jerry wrote: >The question you have to ask yourself is which is more >important to you, cost or usability? Unfortunately there is a third question. Are we willing to stand a restricted proprietary policy? I'm willing to pay for the software that provides the wanted usability. I would do this for FLOSS software, too. Unfortunately I need to pay for restricted proprietary solutions, since FLOSS is decades behind restricted proprietary software in the domain that is most important to me (music production). Regarding images FLOSS as well as restricted proprietary software has got it's pro and cons. FLOSS isn't that bad in that domain. I prefer a restricted proprietary solution over FLOSS regarding the hardware. Using a 12.9-inch iPad Pro with an Apple pencil 2 and even cheap software, you/I only need to pay just one time, instead of paying a high monthly rent, works out of the box. I wonder if a graphic tablet compatible with FreeBSD and/or Linux, with an integrated monitor and a usable pencil works with reasonable latency OOTB and at the same time is not more expensive, than an iPad Pro. If so, I never heard of it.