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From: Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org>
To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Cc: Alan Hicks <ahicks@p-o.co.uk>, Christian Ullrich <chris@chrullrich.net>,
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Subject: Re: Last flavorless revision?
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Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> writes:

> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 11:49:30AM +0000, Alan Hicks wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> On 02/12/2017 17:28, Steve Kargl wrote:
>> > On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 02:06:32PM +0100, Christian Ullrich wrote:
>> >> * Steve Kargl wrote:
>> >>
>> > 
>> > Given that I asked about a specific revision number, it stands
>> > to reason that I had already spent too much time wandering around
>> > svnweb.freebsd.org.  An entry needs to be added to ports/UPDATING
>> > to state which revision turns on flavors and by extension neuters
>> > all port management tools except poudriere.  Four months from now
>> > when users update a system finding that information by crawling
>> > through svnweb.freebsd.org will be a challenge.
>> > 
>> 
>> Your friend is subversion log search
>> svn log --search FLAVORS svn://svn.FreeBSD.org
>> 
>> r455205 | mat | 2017-11-30 15:33:29 +0000 (Thu, 30 Nov 2017) | 13 lines
>> 
>> Generic FLAVORS work.

Another way to get the revision:

$ svn blame /usr/ports/CHANGES | awk '/FLAVOR/ { rev=$1 } END { print rev }'
455205

>
> This does not document the change in ports/UPDATING.  FreeBSD
> users have been told to check {src/ports}/UPDATING for 20+
> years.

UPDATING is for individual POLA violations, CHANGES is for the framework,
MOVED is for renames/deletions. For now flavors changed the way to install
py* ports for non-default python version thus got an UPDATING entry.

> A change that fundamentally changes the way users interact with ports/
> should document.

That's an overstatement. Non-assisted builds (e.g. "make install")
mostly work as before.