From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 4 21:57:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FF816A417 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from askbill@conducive.net) Received: from conducive.net (conducive.net [203.194.153.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CA013C4A8 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from askbill@conducive.net) Received: from cm218-253-81-177.hkcable.com.hk ([218.253.81.177]:61447 helo=pb.local) by conducive.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IonTO-000MGV-JG for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:57:38 +0000 Message-ID: <472E4051.6060908@conducive.net> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:57:37 -0500 From: =?UTF-8?B?6Z+T5a625qiZIEJpbGwgSGFja2Vy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PATCH] Overriding rc.conf in loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:57:58 -0000 Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:08:30 +0000, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: >> With it, you can override any rc variable from loader.conf by prefixing > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Err, I meant loader prompt. Doing it in loader.conf would be kinda > pointless ;) > Welll.... Actually, it is loader prompt that's 'kinda pointless' from 12,000 miles away, whilst customizing a few rc'ish things - *locally* - not via patching everyone else's *BSD universe, has worked well for a VLT. Think of an extra ATT/Linux style 'runlevel' (their usage, not ours) that gets you to an austere multi *first* so you can at least be assured of remote ssh capability and a usable CLI editor (mined, compiled static) even if you've broken something heavier or a secondary RAID array has gone walkabout. Lotta stuff being done in rc that can be deferred. Especially if it requires libs on a slice that might sometimes not get mounted.... sshd to name one. Essential, given the cost of airfare, time enroute, and decent IP kvm's or IPMI boards. Bill