From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 26 11:49:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20DC106566C for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hackers@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9069F8FC18 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24565C57 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:02:29 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BBD75C55 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:02:29 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F213CEB.4020207@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:45:47 +1000 From: Da Rock <9Phackers@herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <20120119005658.218280@gmx.com> <4F19188A.4090907@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F19188A.4090907@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:05:28 +0000 Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:49:58 -0000 > On 01/20/12 09:13, John Kozubik wrote: I normally hate to dredge up old threads, but this is like getting halfway through a story and not finding out the ending... :) What is the answer? Is there a solution to this? I have a string of questions on this: 1. Incidentally, what exactly does constitute a major release? 2. Is there a reason to update the numbers so quickly? 3. Could a higher bar be set to reach a major release than simply temporal objectives? One of the differentiating factors between linux and FreeBSD is the simple fact that linux distros tend to run so fast through the numbers- and while just a matter of perspective, it could provide some sense of stability to enterprise users. Weighed against, of course, the ability to upgrade easily. 4. If in the case of the former, could some backporting to the stable and release branches facilitate an easy upgrade to the next major release? 5. Could binaries be the answer to easier upgrades (customised for enterprise users)? I'd really like to know the OP's thoughts on this... Cheers