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Date:      Wed, 29 Apr 2015 14:59:02 -0500
From:      Jason Harmening <jason.harmening@gmail.com>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Svatopluk Kraus <onwahe@gmail.com>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>,  Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: bus_dmamap_sync() for bounced client buffers from user address space
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> See the paragraph in my mail before the one you answered.
> I am asking about the bcopy()/physcopyout() lines in diff, not about
> the if () conditions change.  The later is definitely fine.
>

Oh, yes, sorry.  There were a couple of whitespace changes there, but
nothing of consequence.


> Even without SMP, VIPT cache cannot hold two mappings of the same page.
> As I understand, sometimes it is more involved, eg if mappings have
> correct color (eg. on ultrasparcs), then cache can deal with aliasing.
> Otherwise pmap has to map the page uncached for all mappings.
>

Yes, you are right.  Regardless of whatever logic the cache uses (or
doesn't use), FreeBSD's page-coloring scheme should prevent that.


>
> I do not see what would make this case special for SMP after that.
> Cache invalidation would be either not needed, or coherency domain
> propagation of the virtual address does the right thing.
>

Since VIPT cache operations require a virtual address, I'm wondering about
the case where different processes are running on different cores, and the
same UVA corresponds to a completely different physical page for each of
those processes.  If the d-cache for each core contains that UVA, then what
does it mean when one core issues a flush/invalidate instruction for that
UVA?

Admittedly, there's a lot I don't know about how that's supposed to work in
the arm/mips SMP world.  For all I know, the SMP targets could be
fully-snooped and we don't need to worry about cache maintenance at all.



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