From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 12 07:54:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D2EDC46E3 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B3377C439 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:53:53 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-203-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.203.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 902683CBF9; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:53:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v7C7rpTW003333; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:53:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:53:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.1, Xfce, and laptop screen and external monitor resolution Message-Id: <20170812095351.9f2cf14b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <387f4665-4ccd-5066-c4b1-14c26afbd7bb@holgerdanske.com> References: <20170731061847.6f78ba27.freebsd@edvax.de> <807d3939-6559-cf96-7ac5-74458f57e9dc@holgerdanske.com> <387f4665-4ccd-5066-c4b1-14c26afbd7bb@holgerdanske.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 00E7F68343B X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1280 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:54:03 -0000 On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 21:27:12 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 08/01/17 21:54, David Christensen wrote: > > I've downloaded > > debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso and will evaluate that next. > > Wow! X.org works better than I have ever seen -- the Xfce "Displays" > dialog gives me 4 choices: > > > 1. Laptop -- defaults to 1280x800. > > 2. Mirror Displays -- defaults to 1024x768 on both. > > 3. Extend to the right -- laptop is 1280x800 and monitor is 1920x1080. > > 4. ViewSonic 22" -- defaults to 1920x1080. That is mostly what I could do with FreeBSD and "hardware mechanisms": 1. - trivial, worked out of the box 2. - worked when Fn+PF7 (I think, look at the key captions) was pressed, so the laptop's display got vertical black bars to arrange 1024x768 (which the initial external monitor had) 3. - I have tried something similar with a Lenovo laptop and a docking station, so X could somehow manage "two displays", just if a PCI GPU had a VGA and a DVI connector 4. - again, "hardware", when the internal display was switched off, the (new) external display's size was properly detected Nothing really required specific support in software, not as a specific driver or the ability to change a setting inside a desktop environment. I know that a lot of this can experimentally be achieved with the xrandr tool, the rest can be "hard-coded" if needed in xorg.conf's successor. > When I bought the laptop with Windows XP 10 years ago, the choices were > #1, #2, and a version of #4 limited to 1024x768. #3 wasn't even available. I think #3 is a feature of X's multi-display support, such as the ability to have two separate screens, or just "concatenate them" (vertically or horizontally) into one logical screen; I think this is called the "Xinerama" extension - it's years ago that I experimented with this. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...