From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 23:37:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98F516A41F; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:37:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5729E43D45; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:37:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9VNaKBR008992; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:36:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:36:19 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20051031.163619.59657502.imp@bsdimp.com> To: fullermd@over-yonder.net From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20051031232711.GD1367@over-yonder.net> References: <20051031102424.V11619@fledge.watson.org> <81484.1130756628@critter.freebsd.dk> <20051031232711.GD1367@over-yonder.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:36:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: Alexander@Leidinger.net, phk@phk.freebsd.dk, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, davidxu@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: TSC instead of ACPI: powerd doesn't work anymore (to be expected?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:37:16 -0000 > > Another thing to remember is that the TSC and ACPI hardware is not > > the only thing we have to deal with: Any solution we implement > > needs to also work on other architectures, including i486 with only > > i8254 timecounters etc. > > Boy, I'm just becoming the voice of not-so-new hardware, aren't I? ;) > > My PPro uses the i8254. So does my P133 laptop. I presume most other > Pentium-era machines, and probably PII's, do as well. When DID ACPI > become the common case? Most pentium-era meachine use the tsc timecounter UNLESS ACPI or APM are configured.... Warner