From owner-freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 19:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0713416A4CE for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EF243D1D for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iA7JokfX013410; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 12:50:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 12:51:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20041107.125108.97296272.imp@bsdimp.com> To: julian@elischer.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <418C12CF.1020306@elischer.org> References: <20041105232734.GA11231@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20041105.163353.112814540.imp@bsdimp.com> <418C12CF.1020306@elischer.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: usb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: my usb plans X-BeenThere: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD support for USB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:53:47 -0000 In message: <418C12CF.1020306@elischer.org> Julian Elischer writes: : : : M. Warner Losh wrote: : : >In message: <20041105232734.GA11231@odin.ac.hmc.edu> : > Brooks Davis writes: : >: On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 04:18:49PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: : >: > That does bring up a good point: How are we going to manage the compat : >: > stuff moving forward? : >: : >: My opinion shouldn't carry much weight in this discussion since I : >: haven't written any significant code in this area, but the compat code : >: has confused the heck out of me every time I tried to read through the : >: USB code. Given the problems we've seen with USB over the last several : >: years, I don't think the compat code has been the win we hoped it would : >: be. : > : >I hate the compat layer. I'd love to see it go. I'd even be open for : >a better compat layer, but what we have now is painful! : > : What stuff is in that layer? : maybe we can get the others to use our stuff :-) usb_port.h. It is a collection of ugly hacks :-( Warner