From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 25 17:40:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA28449 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:40:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from nomis.Simon-Shapiro.ORG (nomis.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA28407 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:40:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@nomis.Simon-Shapiro.ORG) Received: (qmail 528 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Nov 1997 01:40:48 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-111797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711251538.IAA27156@mt.sri.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:40:48 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: Me, Just me... From: Simon Shapiro To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: BIND 8.1.1 Cc: peter@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Julian Elischer , Stephen Roome Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 25-Nov-97 Nate Williams wrote: ... > Only those who don't do their homework. There is no need for 8.1.1 > for > *anyone*, and since it will be changing, it'll be *more* work for > them > to upgrade to the next version when it comes up since it will also > contain new changes, while if they stick with 4.9.6 (or if new bugs > are > found, 4.9.7, or whatever) until BIND 8 'stabilizes', the upgrade > will > only require *one* big change, rather than possibly lots of changes > as > BIND 8 is modified. While your theory is a good one, reality disagrees with you. * There is no such thing as stable software. I saw some recent changes to dd.c, and this one predates Unix. * Most people operate on perception, not on reality (so much so that they confuse the two :-). Many people will choose other Unices over FreeBSD if they preceive it to be anything less than ``hotest''. * More new Network users (ISPs included) will choose Windoze NT over Unix because of what they perceive it to be. I fight this one every day. * None of the above is in support of 8.1.1 or 9.2.3. Neither is it against it. * The idea of making BIND into a package is excellent. All of the above are opinions, not facts, thus describing perception, not reality :-) > I'm sure Paul Vixie doesn't want the same thing to happen with BIND > that > happened with sendmail, That, by definition cannot happen. Simon