From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 10:53:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5B3106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoemix@harmless.hu) Received: from marvin.harmless.hu (marvin.harmless.hu [195.56.55.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61F08FC08 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 2e8b2cc2.mobile.pool.telekom.hu ([46.139.44.194] helo=unknown) by marvin.harmless.hu with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.75 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SkYpj-0006jp-CP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:51 +0200 From: Gergely CZUCZY To: Pete French Message-ID: <20120629125351.00000c76@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20120629115005.00005820@unknown> Organization: Harmless Digital X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hypervisor ( was Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:53:53 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:55:20 +0100 Pete French wrote: > > - Lack of proper support for a decent hypervisor for > > virtualisation. We can't make a hypervisor out of freebsd, if there > > are no such virtualisations available like XEN, kvm or something > > similar, that just works out of the box. > > What do you need that VirtualBox doesn't provide ? I used to bemoan > the lack of a hypervisor too, but vince VBox arrived in FreeBSD I > have had no complaints. I use it to run Windows instances both as > desktop clients and also servers, and it works beautifully. Combined > with a ZVOL underneath (and hence all the delights of ZFS snapshots) > it';s a great solution. Yes, virtualbox is not that bad. However, to get some really nice features, you need the non-free version. Also, we can use citrix's xenserver's management tool to manage non-citrix xen clusters, because the API is same. With that we get a management tool for our clusters, which is really nice. Also I didn't know that virtualbox is capable of building clusters of nodes and bouncing VMs among nodes to balance load, and capable of doing such things, i might be lacking a bit here, sorry. > > -pete. >