From owner-freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 3 13:38:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9A316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tepkom.ru (mail.tepkom.ru [195.9.10.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1688F43D1F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:38:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wart@mojo.tepkom.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tepkom.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id D6D932B1C for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:38:31 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mojo.tepkom.ru (mojo.tepkom.ru [195.9.10.30]) by mail.tepkom.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FA52B12 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:38:31 +0300 (MSK) Received: by mojo.tepkom.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CCF62639FF; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:36:13 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:36:13 +0300 From: Wartan Hachaturow To: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040203213613.GA28189@mojo.tepkom.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: SCCS and batch environment utiltites. X-BeenThere: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Standards compliance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:38:27 -0000 Hello. As far as I can judge, based on Jens's utilities POSIX conformance page, two major things we miss are SCCS and complete batch environment. Other things like missing options etc. could be hacked in relatively short time, but these two rise a pretty interesting question -- do we really _need_ them? SCCS is interesting only as a way to retrieve code from old repositories and reinject in some modern scs -- is it worth importing, for example, MySC (which is, contrary to the GPL-ed CSSC, under public domain) and doing the hard (C++) work on bringing it to the conformance? Batch environment services, as far as I can judge, are important in clustered environments -- and FreeBSD isn't pretty popular in that area. Things like OpenPBS would work, but I failed to find any acceptably free realisation (openpbs, in particular, require user registration to download -- I doubt we want to have such a software in base distribution). Of course, I'll try to find something usable, but is it needed at all? -- Regards, Wartan. "Be different: conform."