From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 21 7:53: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE4937B42C for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jhix.mindspring.com (user-2iniod3.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.97.163]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12174; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhix (jhix@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhix.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA05181; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:56:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhix@jhix.mindspring.com) Message-Id: <200008211456.HAA05181@mindspring.com> To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gimme FreeBSD anyday! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:41:37 BST." <20000821144137.D13975@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:56:31 -0700 From: W Gerald Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > i just read a comment that *nix doesn't even have good, intuitive debugger. > all there really are are wrappers for ancient command line utils. this does > not seem very state of the art compared with vc++ or softice. That's a feature, not a bug! (Despite what the Microsoft-oriented types believe). I just spent all weekend struggling with a monolithic Windows-based debugger. It doesn't allow me to run a GUI remote from the underlying textual debugger and since it is "licensed software" (with a dongle) it's not possible to have a copy at my remote site without great expense. Further, the command-line oriented debuggers so maligned by the Windows types are very powerful, unlike the rather simpleminded ones that Microsoft produces. I've used VC++ and SDS WOD's (windows oriented debuggers). I'm always very happy to get back to DDD+gdb or just gdb by itself. An additional benefit is that they're modifiable and support cross-development. It's different from the Microsoft way. That's a very *good* thing. :-) Cheers, Jerry Hicks jhix@mindspring.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message