From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 15:30:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F4A1065679 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.no-ip.org) Received: from cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (cpanel05.rubas-s05.net [195.182.222.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3E98FC21 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 175-3.192-178.cust.bluewin.ch ([178.192.3.175] helo=gahr.no-ip.org) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SHd1a-0008Fy-S1; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:30:30 +0200 Received: by gahr.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 727ED4505F; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:30:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:30:28 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Mel Flynn Message-ID: <20120410153027.GE73185@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <201204092351.q39Npi6F025202@repoman.freebsd.org> <20120410091537.GK98668@gahrfit.gahr.ch> <20120410114537.GL17460@culot.org> <20120410115630.GB2456@lonesome.com> <20120410124449.GB73185@gahrfit.gahr.ch> <20120410144741.GC73185@gahrfit.gahr.ch> <4F844F19.8070005@acsalaska.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ytoMbUMiTKPMT3hY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F844F19.8070005@acsalaska.net> X-PGP-Key: 0x9571F78E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1203 92B5 3919 AF84 9B97 28D6 C0C2 6A98 9571 F78E User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel05.rubas-s05.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.no-ip.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/8kingdoms Makefile ports/misc/airoflash Makefile ports/graphics/autopano-sift Makefile ports/x11/avant-window-navigator-xfce4 Makefile ports/lang/boo Makefile ports/x11/cl-clx-sbcl Makefile ports/palm/coldsync ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahr@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:30:33 -0000 --ytoMbUMiTKPMT3hY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-Apr-10, 17:17, Mel Flynn wrote: > On 4/10/2012 16:47, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > On 2012-Apr-10, 11:20, Marcelo Araujo wrote: > >> 2012/4/10 Pietro Cerutti > >>> > >>> > >>> I might agree on that. But how is a DEPRECATED port better than a BRO= KEN > >>> one in this regard? > >>> > >>> > >> In my point of view, no make sense have a bunch of ports that actually > >> doesn't works or because there is a fetch problem or even it is set as > >> BROKEN. Who never was upset when need and find a port but it is BROKEN= for > >> some reason, In my view, have a port BROKEN or haven't it, is the same= =2E Of > >> course, I mean when a port is BROKEN for all plataforms as well as for= all > >> FreeBSD version. > >=20 > > I agree on that. > >=20 > >> > >> I believe set it as DEPRECATED is a good way to make the maintainer ta= ke > >> attention to fix it soon as possible, due he has put effort to insert = this > >> software on the ports tree in the past. > >=20 > > What about submitting a PR, as we usually do for anything else? If it's > > ok to wait 15 days (maintainer timeout) to commit an update to a port > > that brings in important features, it is even more so to wait to > > deprecate one. >=20 > Not to discredit your work in any way, but 6 months of being BROKEN can > be classified as maintainer timeout in the general case. That's your opinion, and while I agree on the general idea that six months is a lot, I would like actions / behavior to be based on policies previously agreed upon and documented. "15 days --> implicit approval (maintainer timeout)" is documented "6 months --> implicit deprecation of broken ports" is not > On a more constructive note - why don't you mention the specific port? > Maybe some of us on the list can help you figure out why some files > sometimes don't get byte compiled or provide you with a work-around > solution (dynamically generated plist comes to mind). The port is editors/komodo-edit. sbz@ gave me a hint about forcing byte-compilation of all the python classes using=20 post-install: @${PYTHON_CMD} -O -m compileall -q ${DATADIR} || true @${PYTHON_CMD} -m compileall -q ${DATADIR} || true but I never got to commit that. I'm testing it right now and unbreak the port very soon. Thank you! --=20 Pietro Cerutti The FreeBSD Project gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --ytoMbUMiTKPMT3hY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk+EUhIACgkQwMJqmJVx945XoACaAhCrplQEtftkDNdP87l4Fs4w PRcAnjhvof9Mn5jsES4Lf0ofzBRW3rxS =99XN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ytoMbUMiTKPMT3hY--