From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Feb 21 19:53:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DDCCE87C4; Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04AA5E44; Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id D944E5A9F12; Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:53:29 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Calling ATM NIC users: en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), patm(4) Message-ID: <20170221195329.GB35893@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20170218013250.GA72688@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <611243783F62AF48AFB07BC25FA4B1061CEEA14D@DLREXMBX01.intra.dlr.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <611243783F62AF48AFB07BC25FA4B1061CEEA14D@DLREXMBX01.intra.dlr.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:53:31 -0000 --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, I've forwarded a copy to the list, but given that there were zero non-spam messages in 2016, only three legitimate messages (that no one answered) in 2015, and zero in 2014, 2013, and 2012, I think it's safe to say there are no users. -- Brooks On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:38:21PM +0000, Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de wrote: > Hi, >=20 > there is a freebsd-atm mailing list (at least there used to be). Should h= ave been sent there too. >=20 > On the topic: I'd say: remove it. As the one who wrote/refactored much of= that stuff I get approximately one support request per year. The problem i= s, that I can't really help, since while I have all of that equipment still= available, I don't have any time to do anything with it. So the entire ATM= stack is basically unsupported. >=20 > harti@ >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org= ] On Behalf Of Brooks Davis > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 2:33 AM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; freebsd-net@freebsd.org > Subject: Calling ATM NIC users: en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), patm(4) >=20 > Our current ATM stack supports a small number of NICs that were current i= n the late 90s[0]. None of them have been manufactured in a long time and = while you can buy hatm(4) devices on e-bay, it's increasingly difficult to = find a motherboard that will accept them. >=20 > I'd like to propose removing support for these NICs along with the remain= ing ATM stack in FreeBSD 12. This will give any existing users a supported= OS until at least September 30, 2021 per our published EOL date for FreeBS= D 11. >=20 > Would removal on this schedule cause you realistic hardship? If so, plea= se let us know. >=20 > -- Brooks >=20 > [0] 1997 press release for the most advanced ATM NIC we support http://ww= w.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fore-systems-introduces-industrys-most-advan= ced-atm-adapter-for-enterprise-networking-77407267.html >=20 --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYrJq4AAoJEKzQXbSebgfA+jkH/1vAvw3MqKO3xD0Yb63d8a92 omFLC76k6TPheMpAvTna9FUKUg4XcGbX/vzJetsS9vMOC534Xp4iR5lg9gWvVwJ+ 9srytGXdKdm/dX0QLxP+bjGU6p+/aGfo7VHB/k92tCu5lSxSkkYxhRgfYNK43+wt BfJ2SBevfgpva4KH5XMlqEXUksrlxJksx3L0ULsKwfmEYzHdpV4GI1kNZzcwh54h yEMSgTCa4DwUb+ya225PKwqxZyW0m0LN50pi0sPU1Oq4ekxXYJF7HUCuBfp93ySB aL8ZU78MA4dMROZAcBzy6MFp0fjecSiL8WdZ+8Ic/obuNd4tQCIPQxa84gLaF0s= =Hp/n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O--