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Date:      Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:26:43 +0100
From:      krad <kraduk@gmail.com>
To:        =?UTF-8?B?R2Vycml0IEvDvGhu?= <gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de>
Cc:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?
Message-ID:  <CALfReycHtSi5GXgFZihrTsgDG6wc-ZfkYmQu7AjQmOKdeXntrA@mail.gmail.com>
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References:  <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org> <20140718151255.b3e677d9.gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de>

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this is also another important point. If you go onto google and search on
how to do this and that under pf, you get a mix of freebsd, and openbsd
stuff coming up. I havent analysed it but i think the majority of the stuff
is openbsd related. THerefore I find some nice solution to my problem, only
to find out a bit later I cant use it because its not supported under
freebsd. This is anoying, but more importantly confuses new sysadmins and
puts them off adopting pf and possibly a bsd at all.


On 18 July 2014 14:12, Gerrit K=C3=BChn <gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:06:45 +0400 Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>
> wrote about Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?=
:
>
> GS> The pf mailing list is about a dozen of active people. Yes, they are
> GS> vocal on the new syntax. But there also exist a large number of commo=
n
> GS> FreeBSD users who simply use pf w/o caring about syntax and reading p=
f
> GS> mailing list. If we destroy the syntax compatibility a very large
> GS> population of users would be hurt, for the sake of making a dozen
> GS> happy.
>
> I have thought about this for some time now, and I think I do not agree. =
I
> do remember quite well when OpenBSD changed from ipf to pf, and I had to
> come up with new rules files. Yes, this is a burden for people maintainin=
g
> these systems, but if the thing is well documented and comes with benefit=
s
> (like staying in sync with other developers, allowing new features etc.) =
I
> doubt that many people will really be minding this.
>
>
> cu
>   Gerrit
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