Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:20:26 -0500 From: "G. Adam Stanislav" <zen@buddhist.com> To: Alex Kapranoff <root@kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbie tip Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990516092026.00960770@mail.bfm.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9905161115410.1846-100000@kapran.bitmcnit.br yansk.su> References: <3.0.6.32.19990515110924.0098b100@mail.bfm.org>
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At 11:42 16-05-1999 +0400, Alex Kapranoff wrote: > "logout" is a built-in command in csh. "exit" is built-in in every shell ;) >E.g., I never use csh, so logout does nothing but errmessages me. I did not know that. Which shell do you use? I am not happy with csh, but then, I do not really know if the problems I am experiencing are csh specific: For years I have used 4DOS shell on "the other OS." I am used to hitting F9 to have the shell finish typing a file name for me. It works similar but better than hitting Esc in csh (better because it does not beep if there are several possible options - it presents the first one, and if that is not the one I want, I just need to hit F9 repeatedly until I get to the right one). Since habits are hard to break, I tend to hit F9 instead of Esc even under csh. That causes real weird behavior of the command line: It prepends the command with [U or some such junk, so I always get a command not found. And there is no way to backspace out of it. I just have to press Enter, feel like an idiot, and retype the command line from scratch. Another thing 4DOS does that csh does not: It lets me edit whatever I am typing on the command line. I mean, not just by erasing everything with backspace, but it lets me move around with the left/right arrows and either overwrite parts of the line or insert text into it. If I press an arrow key in csh, it causes the same problems as pressing a function key. Pressing the up/down arrows in 4DOS will display previous commands used in their entirety, and lets me edit those as well. Under csh, I have to use that ugly ! thing, where I get only the last matching command, or I have to remember exactly its number (which I do not remember, I am not a computer). And I cannot edit it either. Is there any shell that works similar to 4DOS? Just to stop anyone from getting upset: 4DOS is NOT a Microsoft product - it was presumably written to give the other OS the capabilities of Unix shells; I just have not found the Unix shell with those capabilities yet. :-( Nor do the authors of 4DOS have a 4Unix shell (and they do not give out the source code to 4DOS). Adam --- Want to design your own web counter? Get GCL 2.10 from http://www.whizkidtech.net/gcl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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