From owner-freebsd-security Wed Feb 5 15:23:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21820 for security-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21774; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (karl@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Mailbox.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id RAA06414; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:23:19 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.5/8.8.2) id RAA18464; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:23:04 -0600 (CST) From: Karl Denninger Message-Id: <199702052323.RAA18464@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Subject: Blacklisting and being "asked" to deinstall FreeBSD - you heard that right! To: spork@super-g.com (spork) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:23:04 -0600 (CST) Cc: dg@root.com, tqbf@enteract.com, karl@mcs.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "spork" at Feb 5, 97 06:27:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-security@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, David Greenman wrote: > > > I don't like how this whole mess has come down. There is an awful lot of > > ill-will being passed out that will have long term ramifications. It didn't > > need to happen this way. > > > > -DG > > I think most of the ill-will comes from the following sources: .... Well, the core team just added to that ill will. Deliberately. I have just received a voice phone call from one of the core members asking me to leave FreeBSD, transition our machines off the operating system, and walk away. Obviously, I will do none of the above. But I thought you should know that the response of the core team is to these kinds of issues. A parallel code track will be online within a few days for those who believe that THIS kind of response is unwarranted under ANY circumstances. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, Web servers $75/mo Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 773 248-9865] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal