From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 20 17:07:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3D2106566B; Sun, 20 May 2012 17:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from web.podro.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f7d0:300:1::100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AFF8FC0A; Sun, 20 May 2012 17:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web.podro.com (web.podro.com [65.18.192.166]) by web.podro.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4KH73xg061060; Sun, 20 May 2012 12:07:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from ns1.podro.com (ns1.podro.com [65.18.192.210]) by web.podro.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q4KH73pH061058; Sun, 20 May 2012 12:07:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) X-Authentication-Warning: web.podro.com: joe set sender to jamie@geniegate.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 12:07:02 -0500 From: Jamie To: Vance Siemens Message-ID: <20120520170702.GY22790@mule.podro.com> References: <4FA2434F.1020802@unsane.co.uk> <864nrxh5zf.fsf@ds4.des.no> <868vgsv0ga.fsf@ds4.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 17:07:06 -0000 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 07:20:18PM -0400, Vance Siemens wrote: > Eh, sorry. I got excited at the prospect of downloading FreeBSD from > the App Store and having the installer "just work" in a modern GUI. > You have to admit, FreeBSD is lacking in this area. It would be a > boon. Personally, I wouldn't like that. A good text UI with a menu is perfect, it works over terminals. It's perfect for server environments. If anything, I should think remote access should be improved. When I want the GUI operating system that "just works" at the expense of forcing me to do everything their way, I use ubuntu. Ubuntu is a toy, suitable for watching videos, browsing and doing email. It does a pretty good job of that, whats the point of trying to out-do them in the toy department? I suppose if they had to do it, a browser based install would be cool. Then you could spend most of your time trying to get the network settings working so the browser would work. :-) The real problem, as I see it, is public perception. I see people using toys like ubuntu for servers, proclaiming "linux is good for servers" and thats just silly. (but it is the popular opinion) Linux (especially ubuntu) isn't particularly wonderful for most servers. Jamie -- http://www.triviacompanion.com Jet-Set & Jazzy Bachelor Pad Music Jazz * Lounge * Spy Sounds =< Relaxing Work Music - Fun Times >=