From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:03:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC60816A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B331B43D46 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:02:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@jennejohn.org) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with asmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AlaKP-0006BV-PH; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:00:57 +0100 Received: from gef79.g.pppool.de ([80.185.239.121] helo=peedub.jennejohn.org) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.30 #3) id 1AlaKO-0005uZ-Pt; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:00:57 +0100 Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.jennejohn.org (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0RL0tFw006309; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:00:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.jennejohn.org) Message-Id: <200401272100.i0RL0tFw006309@peedub.jennejohn.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Marc van Woerkom In-Reply-To: Message from Marc van Woerkom Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:00:55 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cheap amd64 system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:03:08 -0000 Marc van Woerkom writes: > I would love to join development, is there cheap hardware > available already? > Depends on what you buy. Cheap is a socket 754 box with an AMD64 3000+ (only 512MB of cache and 2GHz clock). > E.g. is it possible to take my old amd-k7 box and > just replace mainboard and perhaps ram to have > a usable amd64 system? > That's what I did. In fact, I'm still using some of my old PC2100 RAM in the box since the Infineon DDR400 DIMM I bought runs at CL3 and is slow as molasses. I did some tests and noticed only a few percentage points speed increase using the Infineon DIMM by itself. Since I wanted more memory I just stuck an old DIMM in with the new one. > How much money must I save at least? > I also had to buy a new power supply since my old one didn't have the funky 4-pole connector on it which all modern motherboards seem to require (AFAIK mostly to support the ridiculously power-hungry graphics cards which no normal person would want to use anyway). I payed about 450 Euros a few weeks ago for mobo, CPU and PSU. YMMV. > Is it necessary to put in more than 4gigs of RAM, > to test the system adequatley? > No. What really needs work, like 32 bit emulation, doesn't require a lot of memory. --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj[at]jennejohn.org gj[at]freebsd.org gj[at]denx.de