From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Nov 28 20:08:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18941 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:08:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA18936 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:08:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@y.dyson.net) Received: (qmail 7469 invoked from network); 29 Nov 1998 04:08:37 -0000 Received: from dyson.iquest.net (HELO y.dyson.net) (198.70.144.127) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 1998 04:08:37 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by y.dyson.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA11525; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:08:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811290408.XAA11525@y.dyson.net> Subject: Re: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where was FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199811272152.OAA19036@usr02.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Nov 27, 98 09:52:38 pm" To: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:08:36 -0500 (EST) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, brett@lariat.org, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@iquest.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert said: > > o FreeBSD is still third-party layered software unfriendly > (some would call it antagonistic). There is no real > method in FreeBSD for installing software that is supposed > to start at system startup and shutdown gracefully at > system shutdown. > > Fix: Change the FreeBSD "init" process. This is political > suicide, but technological necessity. > No question about that. SYSV init or something close to that is necessary. > > o FreeBSD Linux emulation leaves something to be desired > (something called "Linux emulation"). This is most > apparent in the FreeBSD inability to run some kernel > threaded applications, like Oracle 8 for Linux. > > Fix: Get a copy of Oracle 8 for Linux, install it on > FreeBSD (in violation of the license) and Make It Work(tm). > We are getting close to shipping pthreads on NetBSD at work. I am asking for permission to donate it to FreeBSD. Since I am no longer involved with FreeBSD, there are more political issues to deal with now. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@iquest.net | it makes one look stupid jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message