From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 05:35:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5DB1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-8.bnguk.net (atmail-8.bnguk.net [80.74.253.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1508FC15 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-8.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NlyHi-00011m-Ox; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:35:14 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 788444AC20; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:35:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:35:14 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, falkman@gamozo.org Message-ID: <20100301053514.GA5440@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, falkman@gamozo.org References: <4B8ABAB3.1060003@gamozo.org> <20100228201322.GA82783@rwxrwxrwx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100228201322.GA82783@rwxrwxrwx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Popularity X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:35:16 -0000 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 09:13:25PM +0100, Martin Tournoij wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:49:23PM -0600, Brandon Falk wrote: > > > Why is it that FreeBSD is so far behind Linux in popularity? The fact > > that lots of companies are not very supportive of FreeBSD (ex. NVIDIA > > and ATI 64-bit drivers) is really starting to bother me. > > The reason there are no 64bit nVidia drivers is because the FreeBSD kernel is > missing some features that are needed for this. (I believe there are beta > 64bit drivers now though?). > In any case, it is hardly fair to blame nvidia. I have to leap to nvidia's defense also. They worked hard with the FreeBSD team to come up with a 64-bit driver which I'm currently running without problems on AMD64: x11/nvidia-driver > > > I guess I would like to have a bit of a discussion of what could be improved > > to increase the popularity of FreeBSD. > > Nothing. FreeBSD has no plans or illusions to take over the world. Correct. It's minding it's own business > > > Any opinions/ideas on this situation? > > There is no situation. I've seen Linux go from quite a nice OS to one that is dominated by a few individual companies: RH, IBM, Novell. I don't want that to happen with FreeBSD. If it does; NetBSD here I come ;) To be honest, I think the licence puts off most of the commercial entities. Which is a *good* thing. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html