Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:03:46 +0000 From: Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> To: Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, imp@bsdimp.com Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Message-ID: <20181008170345.GA9766@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <6ff05cab-24a1-d18a-df21-6c51a5c33b3e@netfence.it> References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <20181004084411.GA50348@FreeBSD.org> <CANCZdfpFXs_Ed-gMZnnSs2eAxYh8hdwr-6dh9rpUUPbZXO0hWA@mail.gmail.com> <6ff05cab-24a1-d18a-df21-6c51a5c33b3e@netfence.it>
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--BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 11:25:48AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 10/4/18 3:07 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 > > At the root of this problem is the community's long resistance to having > > data reported back to the project data about the machines running FreeB= SD. > > Absent any real and significant data, the only way to know if things are > > unused is to ask. We cannot have the act of merely asking cause people = to > > freak out and hurl expletives all over the place. That's significantly = not > > cool. >=20 > First off, I absolutely don't want to flame: I'm glad you asked and I=20 > was happy to answer. >=20 > Just out of curiosity, don't we have sysutils/bsdstats (which I install= =20 > on all the boxes I manage, but I understand won't be present in most=20 > embedded systems)? > Is that project such a failure? > If so, should it be better promoted or would it be pointless? In theory it would provide valuable data, but in practice the website is broken and unable to produce device data. I've asked multiple times for it to be fixed. It would be great if it worked and we could use it. -- Brooks --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbu43xAAoJEKzQXbSebgfAoeoH/1Rl12kNNrx4n7zzkoJYcOhe FtqFjZ3FH7YMubnWwDtUj96ORujs+8YpFxChfWl8aJ0T97EaKi10bowfjQWXYB4t 4gu/WwceL9j19Fx2c9KDepyTh/duwY/V10MU9q3hJ5Tx8+F7/X6dXPT0kATJQlF8 FVxnFw0MuIm2GPtlxEkU9BOSACXtmDVR2YGT9DUUvB0rI0WcIHF1Gr2qht8jrLNd 55D1VQdoXa3jLuqYRVVETfAGlVBnQ4azjhWF1/YI4WyrR38mMGOLlEJ8428VheEA 1Tu5AUvCxsrufArSQbkpmNej9Fy8g6aUq744CuDfvzTcRA2QVMt3VgBrzzoH+ZM= =hCGD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3--
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