From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 23 19:59:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA493B1BFD for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mattik@bigpond.net.au) Received: from nsstlmta31p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta31p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "", Issuer "Openwave Messaging Inc." (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A99397257B for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mattik@bigpond.net.au) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep31p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20190723173459.QFAC4412.nsstlfep31p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com>; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 03:34:59 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddrjeekgdduudegucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkjghfofggtgfgsehtjeertdertddvnecuhfhrohhmpehmrghtthhiuchkuceomhgrthhtihhksegsihhgphhonhgurdhnvghtrdgruheqnecukfhppedutddurdduieegrdduvddrvdefieenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheplhhotggrlhhhohhsthdpihhnvghtpedutddurdduieegrdduvddrvdefiedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeomhgrthhtihhksegsihhgphhonhgurdhnvghtrdgruheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoegrrhihvghhrdhfrhhivggumhgrnhesghhmrghilhdrtghomheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehfrhgvvggsshguqdhquhgvshhtihhonhhssehfrhgvvggsshgurdhorhhgqedprhgtphhtthhopeeorhgrlhhfrdhmrghrughorhhfsehrohgtkhgvthhmrghilhdrtghomheqnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using ID mattik@bigpond.net.au Received: from localhost (101.164.12.236) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.335) (authenticated as mattik@bigpond.net.au) id 5D2D117502FF2F74; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 03:34:59 +1000 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 03:34:57 +1000 From: matti k To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: Ralf Mardorf , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? Message-ID: <20190724033457.6711b396@bigpond.net.au> In-Reply-To: References: <5ceb24c1-66ce-2603-5eed-78283d9676b7@holgerdanske.com> <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1618173539.5511975.1563822072600@mail.yahoo.com> <1125579496.1306494.1563881223475@mail.yahoo.com> <20190723173126.2a26ee26@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A99397257B X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=bigpond.net.au; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mattik@bigpond.net.au designates 203.38.21.31 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mattik@bigpond.net.au X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.76 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:203.38.21.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[bigpond.net.au]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[extmail.bpbb.bigpond.com,extmail.bpbb.bigpond.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[bigpond.net.au,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.821,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[31.21.38.203.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[bigpond.net.au]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.36.0.0/14, country:AU]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.03)[ipnet: 203.36.0.0/14(-3.50), asn: 1221(-1.68), country: AU(0.01)]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:59:58 -0000 With a desktop in mind power consumption and hence power efficient supplies are important so why not a 65W Ryzen 3000 CPU and a motherboard that doesn't need active cooling to keep it alive?