From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 22:48:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9F416A419 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (acme.spoerlein.net [217.172.44.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FFE13C467 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (e180173036.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.173.36]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m0FMmOoA008453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:48:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0FMCA1q006134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:12:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from q@localhost) by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m0FMC9Yv006132; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:12:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:12:09 +0100 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: "J.R. Oldroyd" Message-ID: <20080115221209.GF1529@roadrunner.spoerlein.net> Mail-Followup-To: "J.R. Oldroyd" , stable@freebsd.org References: <1199812249.96494.133.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> <4783C8A8.2090705@raad.tartu.ee> <4783D41B.3000204@FreeBSD.org> <4783D748.1050401@raad.tartu.ee> <4783D824.1050502@FreeBSD.org> <4783DB72.6030605@raad.tartu.ee> <4783DCAA.1080108@FreeBSD.org> <4783EA7E.1050008@raad.tartu.ee> <4783ED15.1060606@FreeBSD.org> <20080109141859.74d08743@linwhf.opal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080109141859.74d08743@linwhf.opal.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0BETA4 desktop system also periodically freezes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:48:28 -0000 On Wed, 09.01.2008 at 14:18:59 -0500, J.R. Oldroyd wrote: > I believe this same problem may also be present on 7.0, at least on > the BETA releases; BETA4 is the latest I have here. > > I have the same problem on two systems here: periodically the systems > will stop dead (no mouse action, no ping responses from other systems, > processes with windows on the screen also freeze); the hangs can be > anything from a few seconds to several MINUTES; then it all comes back > "as if nothing happened" except that keyboard input during the freeze > is lost. Most of my freezes are a few seconds long, some are in the > 15-60 second range, but (fortunately, rarely) I have seen some that > lasted 10-15 MINUTES! > [...] > > But the phone might ring, so I'll stop doing things, the system will > become pretty-much idle, then I'll go to move the mouse and it might be > frozen. When it comes back, the small load peak shows, but top and ps > show nothing unusual. Sorry for the late reply, I'm behind with reading mails. But to let you know that you are not the only person, I witnessed pretty much the same thing. It happens *very* rarely but it does happen from time to time. I'm running 7.0-PRERELEASE with SCHED_ULE on i386 with 1GB RAM and ZFS on a GELI provider. The system is running Xorg7.3 with the radeon driver (I've come to blame Xorg 7.3 for all my recent problems ...) Anyway, it did *never* happen when I'm playing MP3s, but leaving mplayer paused for a couple of minutes I would return and the system was basically frozen. Sometimes after a couple of minutes it would unfreeze and replay all keystrokes and mouse movements but most of the time I'm too impatient to wait. I press the power button and nothing happens. A few minutes later it would do a regular shutdown. Strange things, indeed. The only way, I think I could track this down would be to hook up remote debugging via firewire and break to ddb, but I lack a second firewire laptop :( Cheers, Ulrich Spoerlein -- It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak, and remove all doubt.