From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 16 01:03:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061739CDAA6 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDEA1A76 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DC7E09CDAA5; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0A39CDAA4 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F51E1A75 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t8G13oqL076056 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:03:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t8G13nSh076053; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:03:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:03:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Glenn English cc: freebsdQuestions Subject: Re: 10.2 graphics problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <8F541F88-2EAE-434C-B52C-43A744F54ADD@slsware.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:03:50 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:03:53 -0000 On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Glenn English wrote: > > On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Warren Block wrote: > >> Without details of what actually happens, it is difficult to determine the cause. > > I thought I'd done that. What would you like to see/know? Exactly what happens when leaving X. Sometimes it's a blank screen and the user can type 'startx'. That is due to KMS. >>> I'm thinking the problem may have to do with dbus. >> >> Probably not, although dbus is used by xfce. > > Thanks. Looking down the wrong path. But if XFCE needs it, don't I need to have it working? xfce uses it, but I can't recall if it is required. But it would not cause this type of problem anyway. >> When the package is installed, the user was created. > > I'll uninstall and try again. What package? dbus, xorg, or something completely different? Please stop uninstalling and reinstalling stuff. If that were broken, it would not work at all. >> Start dbus in /etc/rc.conf and forget about it: > > It doesn't start dbus -- same error. A dbus error? Where? >> dbus_enable="YES" > > Already done. Then it is not that.