From owner-freebsd-python@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 16:38:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-python@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D714BA6240D for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koobs.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B846C1F97 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koobs.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B5B1FA6240C; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: python@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55CCA6240B for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koobs.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x234.google.com (mail-pf0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 874A31F96 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koobs.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id q63so168593949pfb.0 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 08:38:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ly141RPokZhXhdBRGHMsf9V4IIlHVEj9LwwWCwcPd4=; b=tH3cOwzdnQ8ItnnZfBCEjhIB1+QGElLm0BJTViSXVJsJ8WM4N0ZsXD7qeOG6HJie3d 5kmLdWGoFfr+rtRuNHaz1bV48asFBMWUoBAdSkhNA/HDo3n/4f9MmuNnnTa/3/oak0W8 zz6Ui8XvmNK+W958JTwb4owq8g1lZAhYGOw1uNQjZ4T6IHJzbGzyBuxNlWcNd0N03PDl IhUGimKp6kZW9gLEf6qXRJ5NEbOw7f4HCfUb/4inGHyZV7CXeJbj//g35uocXrmiDnMX yYdgqcoqnq1Wm/bsESPYlHpso/tCOb9zvbBkaVJvsTOC7ZMeUWmW2ZJrUTOUY2/myS0I gk2Q== X-Received: by 10.98.71.209 with SMTP id p78mr116745052pfi.132.1451925505113; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 08:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:44b8:31ae:7b01::4? (2001-44b8-31ae-7b01-0000-0000-0000-0004.static.ipv6.internode.on.net. [2001:44b8:31ae:7b01::4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d26sm98172891pfb.22.2016.01.04.08.38.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jan 2016 08:38:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: Kubilay Kocak Reply-To: koobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: lowercase requirement for py-ports (Re: svn commit: r405240 - in head/devel: . py-PyLD) References: <201601041351.u04Dp2jq004769@repo.freebsd.org> <568A798E.8050308@FreeBSD.org> <568A8C28.7080803@aldan.algebra.com> <568A8E6C.7010000@FreeBSD.org> <568A95A6.8060002@aldan.algebra.com> <568A9827.4070505@FreeBSD.org> <568A9E99.4050303@aldan.algebra.com> To: "Mikhail T." , python@FreeBSD.org From: Kubilay Kocak Message-ID: <568A9FFB.1000002@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 03:38:19 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/43.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <568A9E99.4050303@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 16:38:26 -0000 On 5/01/2016 3:32 AM, Mikhail T. wrote: > On 04.01.2016 11:04, Kubilay Kocak wrote: >> No discussion archive > Well, if it is not a result of a discussion arriving to a consensus, > then, perhaps, the rule is not as hard, is it? What are you reasons > behind it? >> also PyPI is case insensitive > > Ah, good to know. Perhaps, that's because Python has to work on OSes > with case-insensitive filesystems. But FreeBSD is not among those... > >> FWIW, some of the current practice also includes arbitrarily changing >> the names/versions, missing prefixes/suffixed (causing known conflicts), >> among other non-standard things. > I agree, that /these/ things are best avoided. Mixed-case portnames, > however, are not so obviously wrong. Agreed, its just not a 'current practice' thing that makes that relevant :) >> My guess is also that multi-case ports are in the minority. > It is a /substantial/ minority. Analyzing the INDEX-10 here, I get: > > % awk -F\| '$1 ~ /.*[A-Z].*/ {upper++} {total++} END {print upper " > of " total " ports have capital letter in name"}' INDEX-10 > 6312 of 25575 ports have capital letter in name How does the figure change only including py-* ports? (note, not all py ports have py prefixes!) Nice awk'ing btw *bows* > Yours, > -mi ./koobs