From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 17:40:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7455F148F90B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-ot1-x32c.google.com (mail-ot1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 981D477436 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-ot1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id i20so8521725otl.0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:40:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=G3Re8W5c0ba3HdVUEe3CdDa5ZaYUU8Kin/GKvbKAKcw=; b=S/0/bx/2VgRtaV0LIlFlrrOak+6ebB1aIQ479Ll1Bbbu+w7GEOLhH8LAlhiCTJvxxP CIkykw7aSpiUnEt+7R4UivY4KP009ql61YxmPdGDl0uGoz/OtpA3IRFNq/Gxc8KejuYE U3QAoChW/PcbPPcbgAkPg6g7Lhv8PfJ85N60o= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=G3Re8W5c0ba3HdVUEe3CdDa5ZaYUU8Kin/GKvbKAKcw=; b=YYI80Qe8Ab8Ua1z3+vL5G/g/ZNHIsvlcy3FZMZ2+XIxxXT+4MbDBe231JK96x9gknn kLbW8QkZ6uqJIOGHf/mVUszIyK4ycB/GRv/qXFJ/aXqIDTcCeq+GB/ywcnBTBYA1Y9nD y5aK69ZN6+p7T0lw9eFZkN4s8YevvJ3iZ/HAqCfMdH7WB8j5B9jKkDvIc/Mt4HCezt6K 6qppYk6eFzwO7QbbQjd37VGNLbLn/k9frSz8eSZdmxpm7arRDp5z1+6JeAV6OuuJ1MdW G0x4ByROR6fhe5s1nrC18iIqnddwQOVE4RBCHH0Pzx4Nu2wPbVk038zZEincFbRM8CKZ aEzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukd9hqKrkuD7WoQObNUGpV9x4VfHIIBdm0oySaz0WviwAwmg8IeK SnWEg7mbkKFRcchsX9lx1ENQWXNWBjSzFXtDd5nj+cNp X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7WNeoYkdYqqEI5d3aN0JljQJ5OcViz6ds0dtevDkcfsukStZfaKBU8lC0wVMck0fh3vXQAnO54CcDAMlQyfHQ= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:14e:: with SMTP id 72mr6503321otu.54.1547660415931; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:40:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190116110358.46035e18.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190116110358.46035e18.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Mario Lobo Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:40:18 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Imation SuperDisk 120MB To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 981D477436 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsd.com.br header.s=capeta header.b=S/0/bx/2; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lobo@bsd.com.br designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lobo@bsd.com.br X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsd.com.br:s=capeta]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsd.com.br]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.80)[ip: (-9.76), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.39), asn: 15169(-1.80), country: US(-0.08)]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsd.com.br:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.907,0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:40:19 -0000 Em qua, 16 de jan de 2019 =C3=A0s 07:07, Polytropon escr= eveu: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:31:53 +0000, L. Mart wrote: > > Yes, Imation SuperDisk 120MB is old technology. However, after a > > recent death in the family, I now have a need to recover important > > genealogy documents stored on these disks. The disks were created > > on an Imation SuperDisk 120MB Parallel Port Drive w/ Imation USB > > adapter, which is in my possession. > > A USB-based device should cause less trouble than the parallel > ones, even though I once got a parallel Iomega Zip drive working > with FreeBSD. > > > > > There are 2 dirvers for 2.2.6-RELEASE and, 2.2.7-RELEASE, wfd > > (ATAPI LS-120/ZIP) driver for FreeBSD > > http://configure.sh/FreeBSD/ls120.html > > The ATAPI version is for internal drives (parallel ATA connector). > If you have the USB version, the generic USB direct access storage > driver (da) should work. > > > > > My Questions: > > > > 1. Is the Imation SuperDisk 120MB supported in your current > > release (FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE)? > > It's so old it's not listed anymore, and because it was less > common in the PC area (mostly a "Mac thing"), documentation > for comparable technology concentrates on Zip drives. > > However, as you said you have the USB version, why not give it > a try? Even a live system (booted from USB stick or CD / DVD > without installation) should be sufficient. > > After the system booted, attach the drive. Make sure a disk > is loaded, so the medium can be identified. > > Use the "dmesg" command to check the last messages. Does a > new da* device appear? > > For this example, let's assume lines with "da0:" have been > printed, and we assume /dev/da0 as the new drive. > > If yes, check which files have been created in /dev for that > device, i. e., use "ls /dev/da0*". There will probably be > two files, /dev/da0 and /dev/da0s1, but that's just a guess. > > So let's assume /dev/da0s1 is a MS-DOS (FAT) file system > on the disk - the data you want to get. > > Now you can probably mount the disk. Pay attention to _not_ > use a r/w mount at this stage! A usable approach would probably > be something like this: > > # mkdir /isd > # mount_msdosfs -r /dev/da0s1 /isd > > It might be helpful to apply a file and directory mask with a > more extended mount command: > > # mount_msdosfs -r -m=3D644 -M=3D755 /dev/da0s1 /isd > > Check what's in there: > > # ls -R /isd > > You can then copy everything from the /isd directory, depending > on your "recivery system setup". > > Don't forget to use > > # umount /isd > > when you're done. > > Pay attention to use the correct device name, Contrary to my > example, /dev/da1 could be correct (and /dev/da0s1 wrong). > > You can examine the partitioning with the appropirate "old" > tool: > > # fdisk /dev/da0 > > And you will probably see one MS-DOS partition. > > However, if you have the "Mac thing"... it _could_ be possible > that a different file system has been used to initialize the > disk. In that case, more forensic work will be needed. I'm > not saying it is impossible - I'm just suggesting that it can > be a bit complicated because you need to perform "a mental > and material travel into the past", which I'm saying from > my experience as a "living museum". ;-) > > > > > 2. Is the driver for 2.2.6-RELEASE operable on your current release? > > Probably not, but as I said, as you're using the USB version, > you're probably not going to need it. > > > > > 3. If not, can the driver for 2.2.6-RELEASE be updated to be > > operable on your current release? > > Maybe it can. It heavily depends on the facilities it relies > on. Keep in mind the OS kernel has seen a lot of changes since > 2.2.6. :-) > > > > > 4. Does the 2.2.6-RELEASE offer a LiveCD or does it require a > > full install to a HDD? > > I'm not sure it will even _run_ on current hardware. Sure, you > could use a much older computer, set up networking, and use > an internal FTP server to get the data out... > > On the FTP server, I can only see floppy images for the 2.2.6 > installation process: > > > http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/2.2.= 6-RELEASE/floppies/ > > So that should work. The old computer you're going to use > will surely have a floppy disk drive. :-) > > > > > 5. Do you have any additional thoughts to help me? > > Try it first with a current FreeBSD version. A live system > will probably be sufficient for testing. > > Good luck! > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have a 2.2.8 CD. If that helps, let me know. --=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!]