From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 23 12:07:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25067 for current-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25053 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA08290 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:06:51 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA19169; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:01:36 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970323210136.BJ32077@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:01:36 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2R (src 2.2 211): == dialing References: <199703231914.MAA20768@phaeton.artisoft.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703231914.MAA20768@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mar 23, 1997 12:14:00 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Terry Lambert wrote: > I happen to disagree with the BSD interpretation of POSIX in this > regard. SVR4 is certified POSIX compliant, and they don't do what > we do: they propagate group SIGHUP to all process group members. They don't do it in the kernel, their shell does. If you want the same silly behaviour, use the same shell (ksh93e, it's available for free). I don't want it, so i'm using this shell for reference purposes only. Regarding their Posix certification, i always wonder how they get away with a default shell (/bin/sh) that's still far away from being Posix. Many systems of SysV vintage still ship an obsolete awk, since they fear to rename their `nawk' (which is everything else but new these days) as the default one. I bet they won't make the Korn shell the default shell before the year 2050, in the fear that some obsolete script by some obsolete vendor might stumple across it... -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)