From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 18 00:59:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16254 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16237 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:59:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lestat.nas.nasa.gov (lestat.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.50.29]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA26947 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lestat.nas.nasa.gov (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA13244; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:48:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703180448.UAA13244@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: lestat.nas.nasa.gov: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Smith Cc: terry@lambert.org, bde@zeta.org.au, dgy@rtd.com, hackers@freebsd.org, helbig@mx.ba-stuttgart.de Subject: Re: wd driver questions Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:47:58 -0800 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:08:27 +1030 (CST) Michael Smith wrote: > Aha. One of the ideas I was toying with was having a 'standalone > shell' which would then load the kernel linker, which then would load > the kernel proper. Then as long as the standalone shell understood > the objhect format the other standalone tools were built with, you > could swap kernel linkers to suit the flavour of the day. ...err, "kernel linker"?? I think what you really want is a 2-stage boot program, much like Sun's... a primary bootstrap with the block numbers of the second-level harcoded into it, the secondary has the file system, console, elf/a.out goop, etc. > > I think this will be changing soon, however. Now that the FSF has a sane > > way of saying "This ELF binary is for this OS", I've put the following on > > my NetBSD/hp300 TODO list: > > They do? Do you have a reference for this method? I was forwarded a message from Ian Taylor.. I'll see if I can't dig it up. I'm told it will be in the next release of binutils. > > - make ELF work on NetBSD m68k > > Hmm, I have one of these things (as I guess you've noticed 8), so > naturally I'm interested in that too 8) hehe :-) > > ...but it's not a priority right now... too many other things to do :-) > > Dang! ...well, it's right there around "write new Fujitsu SCSI driver"... :-) Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Home: 408.866.1912 NAS: M/S 258-6 Work: 415.604.0935 Moffett Field, CA 94035 Pager: 415.428.6939