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Date:      Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:48:57 -0800 (PST)
From:      Jaye Mathisen <mrcpu@internetcds.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
Cc:        Alan Weber <aaweber@austin.rr.com>, robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ACLs was disapointing security architecture
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9903191223310.21240-100000@schizo.cdsnet.net>
In-Reply-To: <199903141742.JAA22396@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>

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I miss my Apollo/Domain/OS boxes.  They had lots of other interesting
features as well, but certainly the ACL's standout as being mucho flexible
and very useful...


I miss my crp.

On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:

> [Trim old context]
> 
> >  
> > I am not suggesting directory-only ACLs but want the file ACL to point to the
> > directory ACL unless explicitly changed on a per file basis. I like the above
> > scheme to reuse ACLs as one change can be efficiently propagated to a huge number
> > of files versus having to fetch/update every file ACL in a directory hierarchy.
> > 
> 
> Apollo/Agies and Apollo Domain/OS implemented it something like this, only
> I think the ACL's where stored as seperate UUID objects and files/directories
> had pointers to them.  A UUID is kinda like an inode, but a lot more flexable
> in what it can do.  They also had a utility known as salacl (salvage acl's)
> that would walk a disk volume for all acl's and find ones that had the
> same values, then collapse all the pointers to a minimum set of acl's.
> 
> In the early days of Apollo/Agies is you did not run salacl at least once
> a week performance really started to suck.  Latter they improved the ACL
> cache code and this became less of a problem unless you where doing lots
> of changes to a volumes ACL's.
> 
> 
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