From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 10 9:29:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6B937B400 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1AHTdc29808 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:29:39 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2002021018262843:1037 ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:26:28 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1AHf8R41596 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:41:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:41:08 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-newbie Subject: Re: Aarghh !! Message-ID: <20020210174108.GV19456@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbie References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/10/2002 06:26:28 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/10/2002 06:26:34 PM, Serialize complete at 02/10/2002 06:26:34 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: "Shawn Halloran" > To: "freebsd-newbie" > Subject: Aarghh !! > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 02:53:10 -0800 break your lines at ~72 characters, please. > I guess, since I can't ask questions hear (pun), I can simply state > that I am beginning to feel extreme discouragement. I think that you message perfectly fits this list. Unices are (or tend to be) quite humiliating (at first) for people who are accustomed to "click yes", like I was. The fact is that other operating systems might not work that well in terms of speed or reliability, but when they do work, they work without requiring you to know much about them. How you view this varies with your mileage. That said, all that it takes to have a working FreeBSD install is a bit of hacker trait: desire to know how things work. Beyond that, it's just a matter of time. > I keep hearing how wonderful this system is, but the most Ive been > abel to do is generate a list of the /usr directory. other directories refuse ls? (just joking :) > My mouse won't configure, X won't configure, Heck! I can't even figure > out how to load a simple word processor. Uuumph! Would you mind reposting the *message id's* (not the whole emails) here, so I (or someone else) can look them up? > I've spent hours reading. I've spent hours on the net. I've loaded > this OS several times (which has been a learning experinece - I can > now create partitions in my slice). So far, the best I can achieve is > a barren screen similar to the ominous cursor that greeted my when I > first loaded DOS 5.0. > I certainly hope that all this effort is going to be fruitful - I hope so, too. > I can think of several people that would tell me I'm absolutely insane > for trying to learn this OS. I can think of at least one person who thinks I'm absolutely insane for using this OS successfully day to day. One more thing: I started using FreeBSD last summer. I had had very small experience with linux, but that didn't go much further than ls(1). I use FreeBSD happily both at work, and at home (and no, I don't dual-boot, either). So it *is* possible. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 6:10PM up 21 days, 34 mins, 16 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.03, 0.01 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message