From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Tue Mar 30 18:44:19 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511DA5A965A for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pkk@spth.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F8yz62w3Qz57cT for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pkk@spth.de) Received: from [192.168.178.44] ([77.189.37.98]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mo6WJ-1lxa0y2LhD-00peCt; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 20:44:15 +0200 Subject: Re: Any good alternative to Raspberry for Arm64? To: =?UTF-8?Q?Klaus_K=c3=bcchemann?= Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org References: <21BE83BC-0667-44F7-83E4-1664A2BC6017@icloud.com> <74C08272-D40E-42D2-A623-CEE12C661329@googlemail.com> From: Philipp Klaus Krause Message-ID: <8d54c77b-b5bf-cdc9-7ed5-2bfb6504b388@spth.de> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 20:43:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:gcbnDf6T/akmcqaER0UJkTH7NbMTog0k4TQ1LDTDbUUUqCeqVeG dk7y/uMFQfV0JFnvfha7+38Hu9QxAKOAisgZM8p45eKTjhqOmV2nEoDG0J6priFkBEsVnT7 nH5ZJueDOFEypcsVZhv3vLqfmO9ntpkWRUnFmsKN+wS7kXV+rWze4ONG0waeeY/0rxVJE/k 3SQBXYAU6wb+CV7ByO7EQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8IaeJ/hENpU=:38QFTbNUjXQzhyd3GKOVjm /eD1TiN7pJAZ+8msKbZBkSxyZooMI6JmHuZXnr6yUx6z4TCt3yUFUCEV3fo3Kts5OCsf76INh 8ayn3+PbvKwE7j50yR4eSSgFr8R3A9ofvIl+a5vqFqZBeWDgockJrj82T/fLfm4XebBJnnjSK QNnJJO4Iy2hBqwR2JlKZ2yvAWzXNgMepZO4vdOIvhXzXGJMJqSvAirKSIdz3o/8z6jirX16uO zX73/4A18f8xlTVHh5hTCzvXVA/MiYZfFNNgrIhGjpn/4nFQQxLRkotTO3lQW+WfjvjTup9KV SOcxbaC3Qn1ONQXQ38oeLwDpBbToqmxTH4GINhepR/6OYkktMnBkNgakfaYCYmMpOM4A6DWkr XxDvaOJLkmbihvtaM3xk6u6+/w+ajaM0fOnU5XrFBwOhcvaoEhc/bRy90+F2S1Nzt6eTubBfF gw25QIHxzH0NLJyjh3fsZZKpRs76blA= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F8yz62w3Qz57cT X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pkk@spth.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=pkk@spth.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.05 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[googlemail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[77.189.37.98:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[212.227.126.187:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[spth.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.05)[0.053]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.227.126.187:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.126.187:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.126.187:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:44:19 -0000 Am 30.03.21 um 16:39 schrieb Dan Kotowski: > > SolidRun's Honeycomb (HC), built around NXP's LX2K SoC, is pretty phenomenal. Firmware still has a few changes in the works, but it's mostly cosmetic stuff at this point and I've been happily daily-driving mine for about a month - yes, it sufficiently replaced my aging desktop built around a Core i7-3770K! In fact, there's a handful of us using HCs as FreeBSD-13.0 desktops now. > > However: > * no built-in GPU, so if you want a desktop you'll need to get one of those and that'll eat up your x8 slot > * no onboard NIC drivers because they're connected via DPAA2 which we don't have any support for and I just don't have the time or expertise to write those myself : > Would running Debian GNU/Linux as host OS with FreeBSD guest in qemu/kvm be a workaorund for the missing network support? Philipp