From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 13:37:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21E716A400 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers2.e313df@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (vpn.mired.org [66.92.153.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8682F13C46E for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers2.e313df@mired.org) Received: (qmail 78729 invoked by uid 1001); 14 May 2007 13:36:54 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Mon, 14 May 2007 09:36:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17992.26100.876067.671769@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:36:52 -0400 To: Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com In-Reply-To: <000401c79601$2c4372e0$84ca58a0$@Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> References: <20070512004209.GA12218@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <17989.8202.624522.136573@bhuda.mired.org> <20070512090935.GA13929@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <86r6pkzhso.fsf@dwp.des.no> <46479A4A.1070103@tomjudge.com> <86wszbyko7.fsf@dwp.des.no> <000401c79601$2c4372e0$84ca58a0$@Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.11 (Ladyburn) From: Mike Meyer Cc: 'Tom Judge' , =?UTF-8?Q?'Dag-Erling_=22Sm=C3=B8rgrav=22'?= , 'Michel Talon' , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: RE: DPS Initial Ideas X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:37:22 -0000 In <000401c79601$2c4372e0$84ca58a0$@Sparrevohn@btinternet.com>, Thomas Sparrevohn typed: > > There is a > > reason why people have been discussing this for ten years without > > getting anywhere. > I suspect that is because that by and large the ports system works ;-) - Having > Played around with a couple of Linux distributions - my impression is that "ports" > offers a much more manageable approach or maybe I am just used to ports ;-) You may want to look at some other Linux distros. The packages system dates to about the same era as rpm/debs. The package system is much, much more manageable than them. On the other hand, most Linux distros have moved beyond those tools, to things like yum, apt-get and up2date. Those incorporate the facilities that rpm and debs are missing in a higher-level tool, and I think they are slightly more manageable than freebsd packages. As far as I know, none of them handle updates from source at all. In fact, dealing with sources seems to be a noticable weakness for them. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.