From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 12 03:27:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E684016A401 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:27:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A8B43D48 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:27:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so934115wra for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:27:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sC8M9sVX/v8ZdZPeElZ9POCIhi6YYhC5wIGknI89R0XqmDYhwGXsBWxClLNvvgAYHT5LQtYcvlGVlWrc0D8T130X+nDbW4P5uXIwNwcarYuSjmHAlwa+0ECfTL/8m/Dp2GvLNGjy8GrEiithwT+qNP92j+ZjXCHh8by5yKFJ+2E= Received: by 10.54.121.5 with SMTP id t5mr2204636wrc; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.122.7 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:27:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0603111927y39a917c6l@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:27:54 +0000 From: Chris To: "Mark Linimon" In-Reply-To: <20060311023910.GB15559@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3aaaa3a0603090943qdcc1128u@mail.gmail.com> <20060309180651.GA94019@xor.obsecurity.org> <3aaaa3a0603091750r67188696w@mail.gmail.com> <20060310020722.GB919@xor.obsecurity.org> <3aaaa3a0603101719g5db4f47cs@mail.gmail.com> <20060311023910.GB15559@soaustin.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: libthr + libtool bump + mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:27:56 -0000 On 11/03/06, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 01:19:54AM +0000, Chris wrote: > > I wasn't aware ports removed support right away tho so thank you for > > clarifying that for me. > > There is not enough FTP space for packages corresponding to every > port, for every release. We keep packages for the latest release > on each branch, and the current state of that branch. > > We "support" building ports on as many releases as is feasible. > Right now that's 4.11, 4-stable, 5.4, 5-stable, 6.0, 6-stable, and > 7-current. Even this is, as you can imagine, a great deal of work. > In particular, anyone on 4.x before 4.10 and 5.x before 5.3 is going > to have a lot of trouble because of various incompatibilities. > > > If things goto schedule, will both these releases be treated as > > supported by the ports tree? And why is 5.5 been released at all > > if people should be upgrading to 6.x to remain supported? > > Yes, both will be supported by the ports tree. 5.5 is being released > because we promised that there would be one more release from the > 5.x tree -- and for that reason only. However, it is simply infeasible > to back-port all the fixes in 6.x to 5.x. > > We are pushing everyone to at least test 6.x because at the moment we > are simply spread too thin to support all of these various possible > combinations (don't forget that we also support multiple architectures). > We have tried to plan for less overlap in the future to ease the > support burden. This is part of the lessons that we learned from 5.x. > > mcl > Yep understood, all my new servers I aim to have 6.0 installed and 6.1 when released, if the upgrade I am doing later this week or next week goes well then other servers will follow. I still admin one 4.10 box which will of course eventually have to be formatted. You do a good job with maintaining ports compatiblity and I havent noticed any major issues between different versions of freebsd. Chris