From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 11:41:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D011065692 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAA58FC70 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xykert.erje.net (erje.net [80.126.62.176]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7FBTlOC033798 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:29:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from ismet.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [IPv6:2001:888:1f33::8e45:5e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by xykert.erje.net (PostFix 2.5.7) with ESMTPS id 149E3AF5AB for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:26:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from robert@localhost) by ismet.erje.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7FBQpTg007481 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:26:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) X-Authentication-Warning: ismet.erje.net: robert set sender to robert@ml.erje.net using -f Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:26:51 +0200 From: Robert Joosten To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090815112651.GA5007@ismet.erje.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-erje-MailScanner-Information: support@erje.net X-erje-MailScanner-ID: 149E3AF5AB.E0A6A X-erje-MailScanner: Ok found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: Version nomenclature [was RELENG_7 to 8] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:41:16 -0000 Hi, > STABLE and CURRENT could only point to two things and there were about > 10 potential tags involved. Tags... You say tags. Now, freebsd is an constantly evolving project. It's never finished. And when a branch is, it's EOL. It took me two minutes, back in 97 to get the grasp and at that time the security branch had yet to be introduced, before that I tracked 'stable'. Go figure. You know, that's the beauty of this project: it's 'nix, but different. I agree with you we should find a solution about all this name-bitching: let's encourage them to actualy READ the F. manual. Let's include it in the FAQ ! Or include some pointer in UPDATING for those that like to mess with source code. Or would you like to rename STABLE into UNSTABLE ? Or FIXED ? Or into the $next_upcoming_release_number-ALPHA ? Now that sounds appealing to newcomers.... not. I occaisionally run a STABLE box in production without any trouble, so it's name is what you get: great software, it's stable enough. We also inject new software releases into our ports collection. I never read anything about it's name scheme. Funny, but very relieving IMO. Cheers. Robert