From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 15:07:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F387D1065675 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1E98FC21 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081211150728.WXGV27943.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:07:28 -0500 Received: from localhost ([68.103.159.188]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id pr7U1a00C44AlM802r7UEb; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:07:29 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RhQ5P_Oq81AA:10 a=oXpUwwDD9DcA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=4D-6W_xsE9UZr8E66BwA:9 a=Y2HxRLq5fjrgDM2-k8AA:7 a=pPRqEpxM324Dc3zXV59uBt_srzMA:4 a=f2IwZXmo1fMA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:07:16 -0600 To: "Dmitry Marakasov" From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081209143052.GA29817@hades.panopticon> <873agxjn1x.fsf@chateau.d.lf> <20081209181354.GB29817@hades.panopticon> <87tz9di38u.fsf@chateau.d.lf> <20081209222042.GC29817@hades.panopticon> <8763lsi10m.fsf@chateau.d.lf> <20081210181125.GA86341@hades.panopticon> <87zlj3heor.fsf@chateau.d.lf> <20081210223522.GA6367@hades.panopticon> <87vdtrhb6r.fsf@chateau.d.lf> <20081211082325.GA6167@hades.panopticon> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20081211082325.GA6167@hades.panopticon> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.62 (Linux) Cc: FreeBSD Ports Mailing List Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Ports using SCM repositories as source instead of distfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:07:30 -0000 On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:23:25 -0600, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > * Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल (wahjava.ml@gmail.com) wrote: > >> This is what Debian and Gentoo does. Remember we don't have to pass >> DESTDIR variable to 'make -C /usr/ports/editors/emacs-cvs' instead it >> will be passed to the 'gmake' process invoked by port's Makefile. If we > > I understand. But you're implying that there is Makefile and it supports > DESTDIR. As I understand, you're referring to autotools-based ports. > Remember, those are less than 1/4 of the collection. > >> pass DESTDIR to port's commandline, then it will install all >> dependencies in that chroot which is not desired, we simply care about >> the files installed by that port. Since there're already 20,000 ports we >> can't do it by default, so we've to hack some knob (like >> REQUIRES_DYNAMIC_INSTALLATION) which if defined will enable this >> behaviour. > > So if I understand correctly, you're proposing to only use dynamic > plist generation for the ports that support it without modification, > i.e. autotools-based? > > My opinion is that we should support the feature for all ports, or don't > support it at all. Only getting rid of ~5k pkg-plists is not a huge > accomplishment considering the mess it causes and I doubt it's worth > the work on adding the feature to port.mk and then rebuilding and > testing all affected ports. Being able to forget about pkg-plists > once and forever however would be a huge accomplishment and if that's > possible it should be done sooner or later. I object on get rid of pkg-plist. I depend on pkg-plist too much. I think it's important for us to keep on track where the files/directories are. Cheers, Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org