From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 15 19:16:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA15871 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 19:16:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from phoenix.its.rpi.edu (dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu [128.113.161.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA15866 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 19:16:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu) Received: from localhost (dec@localhost) by phoenix.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA13380; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:15:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:15:39 -0500 (EST) From: "David E. Cross" To: Mike Smith cc: Johan Larsson , Greg Lehey , Rob Nelson , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: 3com 3c509 card In-Reply-To: <199712160227.MAA00551@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > So my suggestion is that you _don't_ ship your computers with 3com cards, > > at least not the 509. > > I'd have to ask why anyone would use a 3c509 when an NE2000 clone is > cheaper, faster and better supported. > > Alternatively, I'd have to wonder why anyone would contemplate shipping > a hardware combination that they haven't tested extensively in-house > first. > Ok... this I take offence at.. I have always had great troubles with the NE2000 cards and compatibles in all areas (from working to performance). I have 2 3c509s in my system, and have only had a problem once (Back with FreeBSD 2.1.5 I think, which got pulled because of the problem). As for performance... I have done cross subnet installs with these cards and got a sustained (on a 1.5 Gigabyte file) transfer of 800 K Bytes per second (between 2 3c509s, across 2 subnets with other computers)... I am *very* pleased with these cards. My understanding of the 'buggy' comment comes from the PNP nature of these cards. -- David Cross ACS Consultant