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Date:      Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:04:50 -0800
From:      John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>
To:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        Elizabeth Myers <elizabeth@interlinked.me>, Anna Wilcox <AWilcox@wilcox-tech.com>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de>, Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@mail.turbofuzz.com>, "sparc64@freebsd.org" <sparc64@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64
Message-ID:  <20151114200450.GH65715@funkthat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20151114175433.GA19271@lonesome.com>
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Mark Linimon wrote this message on Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:54 -0600:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:15:56AM -0600, Elizabeth Myers wrote:
> > If that constitutes "project resources," then I suppose you are
> > instructing people, "go spend your time doing something more productive?"
> 
> In the principle of fairness, let me play devil's advocate for a moment.
> 
>  - it does take some time for re@ to release and test sparc64 images.
> 
>  - having sparc64 in 'make universe' does require developers to spend
>    more time regression-testing their (non-sparc64) changes.

Considering the number of breakages that happen that would have been
caught by make universe, it is clear that few developers run this target,
so not really a valid argument...

Also, we have universe11{a,b} in the cluster to help cut down the time..

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  John-Mark Gurney				Voice: +1 415 225 5579

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