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Date:      Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:58:57 +0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
To:        Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
Cc:        des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav), security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Module magic 
Message-ID:  <19990712085857.2B14C8A@overcee.netplex.com.au>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:41:30 %2B1000." <199907120741.RAA08815@cheops.anu.edu.au> 

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Darren Reed wrote:
> In some mail from Dag-Erling Smorgrav, sie said:
> > 
> > Thought this'd be of interest to this list:
> > 
> > http://thc.pimmel.com/files/thc/bsdkern.html
> 
> So what ?
> 
> Nothing in that document is "new" although it might be the
> first time it's been documented for script-kiddies.

Yeah, the main worrying thing about it is the hard coding of internal data
structures and bypassing of proper interfaces.  I'm half thinking about
doing a couple of arbitary rearrangements of some internal (opaque) data
structures to make their life a bit more exciting.  I'd rather a box panic
and burn if a script kiddie gets in and tries to use some of these
``techniques'' than have it run whatever they like undetected.  This will
be totally harmless to the existing modules since the data structures are
not used outside kern_*.c.

> Darren

Cheers,
-Peter




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