From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Sep 15 15: 9:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF2837B422 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id PAA08375; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:09:04 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda08373; Fri Sep 15 15:08:59 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA61752; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdP61746; Fri Sep 15 15:08:56 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e8FM8tZ26513; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009152208.e8FM8tZ26513@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdw26507; Fri Sep 15 15:08:49 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: "Alexander N. Kabaev" Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Steve Kargl , Will Andrews , Daniel Eischen Subject: Re: Rsh/Rlogin/Rcmd & friends In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:58:34 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:08:49 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , "Alexander N. Kabaev" writes: > > So what! That's the price of security. I believe that the > > telnet/ftp/"r" commands shouldn't even be ports. We need to make it > > difficult to install unsafe software on the system. That way the admin > > would have to go to all the trouble to find the source for unsafe > > software somewhere on the Net, port it, and install it. Then it's not > > FreeBSD's fault if that admin's system is compromised. > > Disabling corresponding inetd.conf entries will serve that purpose as well. > Some of us work in places full of Unixes of all kinds and flavours and > out-of-the-box interoperability argument presented by Steve makes a lot of > sense in such an environment. > > "Everything is the package" idea is OK as long as we will retain the option o > f > complete system upgrade using CVS/buildworld path. Forcing users to deal with > every package separately will destroy that fuzzy feeling of completeness and > tightly OS components integration FreeBSD was always famous for and IMHO will > do more damage than good. > > Please count my voice as "strongly against" proposed code removal. How about a compromise? Like an option or options in make.conf? Then put telnet/ftp/"r" commands into an rcmddist distribution? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message