From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 28 21:56:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 262AA452 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F340F2DB3 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id E6DF4CB8C9C; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 15:56:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from 69.209.227.251 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 15:56:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <2641.69.209.227.251.1419803774.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 15:56:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Warren Block" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:56:22 -0000 On Sun, December 28, 2014 1:40 pm, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 28 Dec 2014, Christian Baer wrote: >> >> This is a little redundant, but I really want to make this clear... >> >> My motherboard is a Supermicro X10SAT. When the system starts, I can >> press >> F12 which lets me choose the boot device (basicly like in the BIOS >> setup, but >> an a temporary basis). This is a *motherboard* function, this is not a >> boot >> manager from any OS. The motherboard recognises both Windows (list item: >> "Windows boot manager") and FreeBSD (list item: "EFI OS"). >> >> I have seen no other boot manager after the installation nor did I see >> any >> chance to choose/configure/check one during the installation of FreeBSD. >> The >> handbook in rather silent about this subject too, which is quite a >> surprise >> to me. When I started out with Linux, everything was about being able to >> coexist with Windows on a single machine. I switched to FreeBSD a little >> later. My first FreeBSD CDs were of v3.3 (that was 1999 and I am feeling >> very >> old right about now). The FreeBSD boot manager of back then wasn't as >> pretty >> as the one supplied with SuSE at the time but it did the same thing. >> >> Is this an EFI thing or have the priorities shifted? > > UEFI is a whole new game, utterly different from what came before. And > FreeBSD's UEFI support is new. As far as I know, it has no provision > for multibooting in UEFI. Code to do that would be welcome, it's been > difficult just to get the current UEFI support. > > Your boot menu suggests that Windows 7 is installed for standard BIOS > booting. The easiest way to deal with this is to reinstall FreeBSD for > standard BIOS booting also, with an MBR format. Then you can install > the boot0 multiboot program, but it really doesn't offer anything that > the BIOS boot menu does not already have. > > Please also consider running FreeBSD as a VM with one of the many > virtualization options. That has many advantages over multiboot setups. There is a big difference: in last case you have the machine running Windows 7. Just out of curiosity: do _you_ have the same level of trust to Windows 7/8 system as you do to FreeBSD? If yes, why at all would you go into trouble running FreeBSD? Just curious (no offense to anyone/anything intended ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++