From owner-freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Tue Apr 25 15:02:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8600D509B3 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F185FA3 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v3PF2TxJ082228 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:02:31 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 218849] Remove rc.conf jail configuration via jail_* variables Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:02:29 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: conf X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.0-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: qjail1@a1poweruser.com X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:02:31 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D218849 --- Comment #7 from Joe Barbish --- In reply to comment # 3 which states "But I believe the number of ezjail-jails is significant."=20 This is un-true, since 10.0 was published many ezjail users have been movin= g to qjail because qjail uses jail.conf and its a fork of ezjail so the users are familiar with its operation=20=20 "Also, as you can see, until now (11.0) it's the 3rd-party tool recommended= by the FreeBSD project itself (if you take the mentioning in the handbook as an endorsement)." This statement is also un-true. The FreeBSD project itself never publicly stated any position of 3rd-party tools. The inclusion of ezjail in the hand= book is a current departure from the previous long held guild lines that no how-to-use details of 3rd-party tools would be contained in the handbook. A simple statement listing all the 3rd-party tools that may serve a certain function was allowable. The how-to-use details belong in the the 3rd-party tools manual pages.=20=20 My comment. With RELEASE 10.0 published 1/4/2014, jail.conf became the direction jails = are headed. Any one who uses the rc.conf jail method even today gets the warning message telling them to convert to the jail.conf method. This warming has b= een in existence for 3+ years now. This warning message even shows up when ezja= il starts its jails. Its not like the ezjail maintainer doesn't know about thi= s. ezjail has had 2 updates since 1/4/2014 when RELEASE 10.0 was published, PR# 357253, committed 6/10/14, an upgrade from 3.3 to 3.4, and PR# 402477 commi= tted 11/27/2015, an upgrade from 3.4 to 3.4.2. The internal design of ezjail sti= ll has not been changed to the jail.conf method. 3+ years has been more than enough time for ezjail to be upgraded to the jail.conf method if the mainta= iner so desired.=20 Based on the replies, I see no reason to not remove the rc.conf jail defini= tion method from the rc.d script set now. Further more this task should be made a priority so it gets accomplished for inclusion in 11.1. At the same time the handbook ezjail section should be removed from the handbook being replaced with a simple informational statement listing all t= he 3rd-party jail tools, thus giving all of them fair and equal footing in the handbook. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=