From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 20 08:13:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AEB16A401 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B4843D46 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:13:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (adsl-66-124-231-46.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [66.124.231.46]) (authenticated bits=0) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2K8DCSD015924; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:13:15 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8586F50; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:12:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:12:50 -0800 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20060320081250.GA1310@flame.pc> References: <200603191206.37710.krinklyfig@speakeasy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200603191206.37710.krinklyfig@speakeasy.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.909, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL -0.89, BAYES_50 0.00, MANY_EXCLAMATIONS 0.78) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Petition! Ask Macromedia for a native Flash Player! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:13:32 -0000 On 2006-03-19 12:06, Joshua Tinnin wrote: >On Sat 18 Mar 06 08:52, >"Charles A. Landemaine" wrote: >> If we want FreeBSD/PC-BSD to thrive, we need more and more support >> from the big guys. >> >> Having a native version of the Flash Player is necessary. But I think >> it's not so hard to get this release from Macromedia, it just takes a >> minute to fill out a feature request form: >> http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform&product=17&6213=19 ;) >> >> Together we are strong, if you would like to help, please ask >> Macromedia to release a native FreeBSD Flash plugin. Then, spread the >> word in BSD forums to ask people to do it too! >> >> Please reply to this thread to have a rough idea how many people >> asked Macromedia for this feature. > > I filled it out. I don't have much faith in these sorts of efforts, > but it would be nice if they did this, and I don't think it would take > much work on their part. I filled this form too. I don't have much faith in 'feedback forms' either, unless there is ample evidence that someone is indeed reading and replying to *all* sumbissions. I don't think that commercial companies only account for the amount of effort of the porting though. They have to account for all sorts of other things too, i.e. supporting the released binaries and how much bad things which may happen can cost to the ``fame'' of the company (among other things). Having said that, I hate Flash, because it makes pages very unusable for me most of the time. Some of the pains involve the inability to use a text-based browser for quicky accesses, the inability to select a font size that matches my preference, the inability to copy text from and to flash elements, etc. etc. I still filled the form, because some times it's impossible to access a page AT ALL if Flash is not available. - Giorgos