From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 2 13:22:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3567E37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F3E43FB8 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott.mitchell@mail.com) Received: from fishballoon.dyndns.org ([80.4.125.54]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030202212203.RRMQ4022.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.dyndns.org>; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:22:03 +0000 Received: from tuatara.goatsucker.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h12LLcbO038974; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:21:38 GMT (envelope-from scott@tuatara.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.goatsucker.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h12LKYhj013536; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:20:34 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:20:34 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Darren Pilgrim , questions@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer Subject: Re: Why should I use `config;make depend;make...` instead of `make kernel` when building from a stock source tree? (ref. Handbook sec. 9.3) Message-ID: <20030202212034.GD22208@fishballoon.dyndns.org> References: <3E3C77F0.6050805@pantherdragon.org> <44vg03la16.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <3E3CBF66.5070609@pantherdragon.org> <20030202103120.GC22208@fishballoon.dyndns.org> <20030202124916.GB749@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030202124916.GB749@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [CC-ing Mike in since he added useful info to the thread on -questions] On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 02:49:16PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Scott, pardon my replying to your post to write to Darren. I missed > Darren's initial post and I wanted to chime in adding my bits to your > excellent explanation. [...] > Does this clarification make it any clearer? Do you still think that > the Handbook needs fixing? If yes, then I'm open to suggestions :-) I'd remove the paragraph (4th from bottom of http://www.uk.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html) that says: "If you have not upgraded your source tree in any way (you have not run CVSup, CTM, or used anoncvs), then you should use the config, make depend, make, make install sequence." because it's somewhat confusing in the context of "If you are building a new kernel without updating the source code... you can use either procedure." further up the page, and I'm not really sure what it means: if I've just installed full source from a CD, but not 'upgraded' it, do I have to use the config procuedure? Obviously I don't, but that paragraph seems to imply that I do. Assuming Mike is right (and I tend to assume he is :-) about buildkernel using the installed toolchain if it can't find one in /usr/obj, the rest of the page makes perfect sense. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message