From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 00:27:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979FB16A468 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FB413C44B for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so716881mue for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:27:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+mvA+orMNvMCH9yaAOqykc+1eIkm76EkLds/AnGdjGE=; b=s6bztZRc3zIbaizVUqyXlHBx2ejFIub2APvr4htOP68+g5SGQtSvtXlyZ6HI7cXyBA5VaT034Zya4EevLM1XpUiSrEw3JR7qonyAvey+KQh232yky8KYUAcLTaxCaO/EcS/YzRsudYQiKFYPufBONuj1BlVZFsJ0hNLw2AD3gSM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DP+WUPneStbkFsibbf0H7EqVO1ktxVfdzIK1Lwiuz4Lt9Erz0kaZbSjN91i73iEv9EmWKsdvzwlzqMcthT96nsGptrHxFq8ti51oLu2kXy0e25ZJc074SBbU+xa3F+NQctQtNv7G3HWrGACeNN/uRSwFSts47YyRotfHyVAjtK0= Received: by 10.82.146.14 with SMTP id t14mr5777838bud.1196036820451; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.186.11 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:27:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:27:00 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "Paul Schmehl" In-Reply-To: <3AF266D1C00C5A180CAD4592@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000801c82fa9$7c9ad700$6701a8c0@mobility> <20071125234621.GB3362@kobe.laptop> <000701c82fbf$45d93160$6701a8c0@mobility> <3AF266D1C00C5A180CAD4592@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: who wrote this X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:27:02 -0000 I'll take up the challenge. Hitler was evil. Quoting Hitler is not. > When we seek to suppress information, no matter how troubling, we obscure > the very lessons of history we need most to learn. If, because Hitler was > evil, we do not allow discussion of him, how will future generations learn > of his evil? As we argue this very point, there are people in the world > insisting that the holocaust never happened, that Hitler did not commit > the evil deeds that history has recorded he *did* commit. If we refuse to > speak of him, those who insist he wasn't evil will win the argument by > default. > --- I believe that myself..evil people can still be brilliant, and can in retrospect, teach us a lot about ourselves as a human race. Were all animals, capable of horrible or fantastic things. What we do with that knowledge and power is the real problem. What genre of quoteable will we be debating next? MANY people worldwide hate/despise many things. If we begin here, where does it end? Will we be discussing a kernel level "hitler" filter next? C'mon, I believe that most reasonable people can separate the actions of someone from their words from a historically relevant point of view.