From owner-freebsd-java Fri Feb 22 10:51:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from Millions.Ca (h-207-228-120-32.gen.cadvision.com [207.228.120.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC38537B404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by Millions.Ca (8.11.1/8.9.3) id g1MIpSA74762 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:51:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from stacy@Millions.Ca) Received: from Cedar.Millions.Ca(192.168.64.8) via SMTP by mail-gw-0.millions.ca, id smtpdl74760; Fri Feb 22 11:51:18 2002 Received: from millions.ca (Maple.Millions.Ca [192.168.64.2]) by cedar.millions.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g1MIpGs04491 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:51:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from stacy@millions.ca) Message-ID: <3C769324.F223E500@millions.ca> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:51:16 -0700 From: Stacy Millions Organization: Millions Consulting Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best IDE for slow system? References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA389@l04.research.kpn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Koster, K.J." wrote: > When the going gets tough, the IDE's let you down. I'll second that! I have spent more time trying to fix IDE generated code then it would have taken me to write it in the first place. > As for IDE: I develop with FreeBSD's default vi and Ant 1.4.1. > Ant's only virtue is that it will work on all OS's. I thought I was the last of the vi die hards :-) One other plus for ant, at least compared to make, is speed. Because make will fire up a new javac (and therefore a new VM) for each source file it compiles, it can be quite slow. Ant just fire the compiler off in a thread of its VM, much faster. The first package I converted from make to ant contained about 350 source files. With make, a "make clean all" took about 35 minutes, the equivalent with ant is less then five minutes. That is on a celeron 333 running FBSD-stable. -stacy -- You'll see it's all a show. Keep 'em laughing as you go. Just remember that the last laugh is on you. - Monty Python _The Life Of Brian_ Stacy Millions stacy@millions.ca Millions Consulting Limited To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message