From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 13 4:24:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5784037B41F for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (contactdish.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fBDCOax39206; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:24:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <00ad01c183d1$22294ca0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Terry Lambert" Cc: "Mike Meyer" , "Technical Information" , "FreeBSD Chat" References: <20011211140107.A67653@FreeBSD.org><0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><01121010202100.00345@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><20011211144049.A14693@acidpit.org><20011211214943.A4489@tisys.org><15382.29599.349155.309028@guru.mired.org><20011211230257.A5157@tisys.org><4.3.2.7.2.20011212181551.015734a8@threespace.com><15384.11772.363959.693167@guru.mired.org><003701c18398$07091d30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15384.17244.476714.955574@guru.mired.org> <004901c1839d$b273c440$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C18693A.D2093A32@mindspring.com> <00a101c183b2$0c496b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C1876E5.E2FF3B1D@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: EzBSD aint for me! Was: A breath of fresh air.. Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:24:37 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry writes: > You already did, by installing Windows. This is the sort of hyperbole that reflects very poorly on virtually every group using software other than Windows. The average person doesn't hate Microsoft; many are quite pleased with its software. When you come across as a rabid hater of the company, and it becomes apparent that all of your actions and recommendations are motivated by this hatred, rather than by a legitimate interest in using the best tool for the job, your credibility erodes significantly. It is one thing to argue the merits of FreeBSD on technical and other bases to a person for whom the OS might be a viable option. It is quite another to begin an adolescent rant against Microsoft that ultimately gives disinterested parties the impression that the only reason to install anything non-Microsoft is out of hatred for that company. As I've said, most people do _not_ hate Microsoft, so if that appears to be your only reason for recommending anything else, chances are that they'll stay with Microsoft. Additionally, Microsoft bashers often appear so labile and volatile in comparison to normal IT professionals that some may avoid the former just out of a desire for security. > You would be absolutely appalled at the cyber > warfare capabilities that are already out there, > dpeloyed by crackers, aided and abetted by > Windows' poor security. If the Mac were the leading desktop platform, crackers would be concentrating on methods of compromising that system's security instead. This has nothing to do with the intrinisic security of an OS, and everything to do with the market dominance of an OS. Targeting Windows gives you far more potential targets than targeting any other OS. In the area of security, it might be wise for UNIX users not to point any fingers, as UNIX security is very poor indeed. I shudder to think what sorts of problems we would be having if UNIX were on every desktop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message