From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Thu Aug 10 23:05:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AAAC08FD5 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 23:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22d.google.com (mail-ua0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5037E74E90; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 23:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id f9so9199457uaf.4; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:05:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DYzNklmwGbSfI1AT7a3giQIqvnJBAHQ76fl3aUxz+HQ=; b=LWba0gqalhmOzSmPIbWyssXRAJotqb1RgasV+2kpCbeoOSSV90R0mOnym/fHCyqOqf +/sTkX1UDKW1d+zizsNs7fITC8IATZi+hRrIrVYtMEKRdQpogFYuqFvWt1GnVQfPbs+z 0vvMDQtasSdmG6Qw/JWYFUY8rO+DuFmWe/MTHI7T0U2fJ7RhPkmxZrTc0ESGgU8QJN4m GuGKi/oJk4OB7OTGC2SZhPV3a1cpFLUsR+VOabzX8T0mLDzEbO4Af06VQlh93ww2LgxQ oY4PA++0M/Cpdm/YwmZSzvOhmI+hshQkJWNxEf3r78khHHdoYfM5YGtX1bcsq7oFlwki 5Jxg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=DYzNklmwGbSfI1AT7a3giQIqvnJBAHQ76fl3aUxz+HQ=; b=NMPBJFNBBM8cbDSbGUNX9U4EgHIfUTqE9LCkRNWL7Q85mzuoXlnhX+ZHNzUg9TqJjP zD3dLwODTmUojjgZRYVD7iVuuc1EanjCvuWH/Le5iSQ7gmDmmMwdz3TIcr7QKs4qqQqH sH8gYHW9Z82Z8HElm3WikeZStDC9jqnM9qTARAq97LASkxw6Sk7NuNNd3NP51d+M9MvE iLEpqDLprvwjf0b6eIGhmupDJx/sK9YofFFD9CLkFhAr+zmeeN+M0f4mUa43ZGVC4gHS I5DPuUXebJOsNVKcu/G9yrY/z8o+7+T1gw8IlLFjlPjvip5mnqmLmefJSoKTaOYYXYWi zSpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5iiJtQ4MYv8IDjHIPKnIJ/yDyo+kb0d1iDalPZkShL5Ew6Y2iKE tOm+8JS8pzqR/xqXP/8WXiKXCfo7OfjZ X-Received: by 10.176.84.153 with SMTP id p25mr10153008uaa.174.1502406317183; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:05:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20170810140615.GD63224@FreeBSD.org> <1218488026.1377609.1502378299872.JavaMail.zimbra@ixsystems.com> <20170810152151.GB82820@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: From: Ben Woods Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 23:05:06 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkgbase update and progress To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 23:05:18 -0000 On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 at 11:35 pm, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 10/08/2017 16:21, Glen Barber wrote: > >> * Since we have no mechanism of properly merging changes to /etc > >> we simply copy files as needed with pc-updatemanager, and it is > >> difficult to maintain what should be updated, merged, or removed. > >> > > This is another long-standing item in the list of things to fix, indeed. > > The idea floated at BSDCam was to have a package that would install a > pristine copy of the /etc files under /var/db/etcupdate and prompt the > user to then use that tool to update or install their configs. That > should provide a nice compromise between having the files available from > pkgs and not enforcing a specific mechanism (tools, not policy) to > update /etc. > I haven't attended either of the conferences, and I'm sure this would have been discussed, but for those of us who weren't there: Pkgng has 3-way merge capability (copied from fossil-scm in pkg 1.4.0). Why are we considering using it? Not having ever seen this functionality used, I would have thought the only things to do would be agree on where the pristine old copy would be stored (.sample files in /etc?) and perhaps improve pkgng if the user experience isn't satisfactory. Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com