From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 22 14:27: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913FF37B400 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from janeway.vonbek.dhs.org (bgm-24-24-79-198.stny.rr.com [24.24.79.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B922143E86 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syborg@stny.rr.com) Received: by janeway.vonbek.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 507) id 3BBD64FA51; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by janeway.vonbek.dhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339E04A0D; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:24:23 -0400 (EDT) From: John Bleichert X-X-Sender: syborg@janeway.vonbek.dhs.org Reply-To: John Bleichert To: David Kelly Cc: Benjamin Krueger , Josh Paetzel , Kevin Stevens , Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a Mac In-Reply-To: <20020822205146.GA36456@grumpy.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, David Kelly wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:51:46 -0500 > From: David Kelly > To: Benjamin Krueger > Cc: Josh Paetzel , > Kevin Stevens , > John Bleichert , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a Mac > > [moved to -chat] > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 01:08:41PM -0700, Benjamin Krueger wrote: > > > > Apple does not own PowerPC, it belongs to IBM. > > Is a joint project owned at least in part by Apple, IBM, and Motorola. > The CPU is derived from IBM's RS-6000 RISC. The MMU is from Motorola's > 88000 RISC. Apple brought the two others together and committed to > volume purchases, rendering the project into an economic feasibility. > > > IBM currently uses it in many of their server offerings. Apple's > > current line of PowerPC cpus are an implementation manufactured by > > Motorola. Motorola will sell them to folks other than Apple. In fact, > > Motorola has an entire line of PowerPC products for embedded and other > > systems. > > Have an Apple G4 sitting right here but not interested enough to verify > who manufactured it to remove its heatsink. Was my understanding IBM's > big bally-hoo'ed copper chip process was being used and that most if not > all G4's were manufactured by IBM. > > Motorola's embedded PPC CPU family is called "ColdFire". > IBM made the chips for the first couple revs, and Motorola has been doing the fab work for the last 2 years. Word is that, due to Motorola's yield problems, that fab work may go back to IBM. /* * John Bleichert * syborg@stny.rr.com * http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message